DuckDuckGo

ploum,
@ploum@mamot.fr avatar

Leave Google now and help others doing the same by:

  1. Switching or (using !g if Google is really needed)

  2. Creating an email account on one of the many ethical alternative while asking gmail to redirect all email received.

  3. Trying @organicmaps and adding your business information on OpenStreetMaps (opening hours, etc)

  4. Creating a @peertube account on an instance and uploading your videos there

All those steps can be achieved by yourself, alone!

niavy,
@niavy@masto.bike avatar

@ploum
I DID IT MYYYYYYYYYYYY WAAAAAAAY
@organicmaps @peertube

niavy,
@niavy@masto.bike avatar

@dsoft
Magic Earth, while not open source, is truly a great alternative.
Organic Maps (open source) is slightly below Magic Earth, quite slow to calculate long trips, but guiding is almost as good.
While I agree for YouTube, it should be known to everybody that better and FREE frontends exist : Libretube or Tubular (the latter giving also access to... Peertube !)
@ploum @organicmaps @peertube

johnglass,
@johnglass@ohai.social avatar

The duck is ok...sans ai.

gnulinux, German
@gnulinux@social.anoxinon.de avatar

Zum Wochenende: Ausgesucht

Der gestrige Ausfall vieler Suchmaschinen zeigt eine systemische Schwäche und sollte zum Nachdenken anregen.

https://gnulinux.ch/zum-wochenende-ausgesucht

m,
@m@ms.vg avatar

@gnulinux Ich selber habe nichts davon bemerkt, nur von anderen gehört. Ich hatte gestern einfach nichts zu suchen.

KnutKnusper,
@KnutKnusper@social.anoxinon.de avatar

@gnulinux
Ich nutze Startpage und in der Bildersuche hatte ich auch Probleme.

LukaszD, Polish
@LukaszD@pol.social avatar

Potestowałem tego chata AI z DuckDuckGo i jest bezużyteczny. Okroili go z wielu rzeczy, prywatności, nieszkodzenia nikomu, nawet kodu Morse'a nie odszyfruje.

ex, German
@ex@chaos.social avatar

Was war eigentlich gestern bei , & co los?
Ich finde nichts in der Presse dazu, nicht mal bei den Fachzeitungen.

zdl,
@zdl@mastodon.online avatar

@ex Bing's API was malfunctioning and since DDG uses Bing...

aral,
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar
tomstoneham,
@tomstoneham@dair-community.social avatar

@aral
Do you know @Mojeek which is genuinely independent. And about as private as you can get.

darren,
@darren@c.im avatar
aral,
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Duck Duck Go is down because Bing is down.

(Also, you saw the recent AI stuff, right?)

Folks, I know… I use Duck Duck Go also but remember they have venture capital. Enjoy it while it lasts (or let’s fund and build alternatives differently that aren’t temporary businesses with profit motives and exits but commons-owned institutions working for the common good).

Cheeseness,
@Cheeseness@mastodon.social avatar

@aral Aral, are you familiar with Stract (a search engine that is F/OSS)? It seems neat and has interesting features, but I haven't had time to investigate if it is what it appears to be https://stract.com.about

garrett,
@garrett@mastodon.xyz avatar

@Fury @aral There's a huge table of search engines, all compared by tracking, organizational type (for-profit, non-profit, collective, hobby, personal), jurisdiction (US, countries in Europe, etc.), various safety ratings, and technical features at https://searchengine.party/

All of these can be added to a browser as a default search engine too, but it's a little convoluted. (The gist: Visit the site, right click on the URL bar, add it. Look in browser settings under search and set it as default.)

kev,
@kev@fosstodon.org avatar

So it seems that was down for the last few hours because of a outage. That's very annoying; DDG should probably get out from under Microsoft's coat tails...

<https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/23/bing-is-down-bringing-duckduckgo-and-ecosia-down-too/>

garritfra,
@garritfra@fosstodon.org avatar

@adamsdesk @kev I believe they are indexing themselves, but if I skimmed this correctly they blend the results from different sources:

https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/

adamsdesk,
@adamsdesk@fosstodon.org avatar

@garritfra @kev I started to read this then stopped as my focus should be else where right now 😄. Happy to hear.

jackyan,
@jackyan@mastodon.social avatar

Bingo! Or -go! , , , and down? I hope a ton of people are switching to @Mojeek today. https://mojeek.com

Mojeek,
@Mojeek@mastodon.social avatar

@jackyan independent search index go brrrrrrrrrr

jackyan,
@jackyan@mastodon.social avatar

@Mojeek I would love to see the looks on the faces of all those who decided to argue with me when I told them their favourite search engine was just a Bing clone!
Or that chap who said that Duck Duck Go was a meta-search. When I asked him what sources other than Bing it searched … he fell silent!

unicornCoder,
@unicornCoder@fosstodon.org avatar

since is trending due to a outage i learned that this searx search engine exists

https://searx.github.io/searx/

ItsThatDeafGuy,
@ItsThatDeafGuy@beige.party avatar

Realistic alternatives to DuckDuckGo folks?

Mojeek,
@Mojeek@mastodon.social avatar

@shadowwwind @ItsThatDeafGuy @StartpageSearch tbh today kind of feels like fedi embracing us 😂

but yeah, here is best 😎

ItsThatDeafGuy,
@ItsThatDeafGuy@beige.party avatar

Have switched my search engine defaults to @Mojeek and will give it a whirl.

Thank you everyone.

noellemitchell,
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

#DuckDuckGo is working again! :party: :blobhappy:

bhhaskin,
@bhhaskin@bitsofsimplicity.com avatar

@noellemitchell been using DDG for a few years. It's been pretty great!

noellemitchell,
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

@bhhaskin Yeah same here! Been using it for quite a few years now.

anderseknert,
@anderseknert@hachyderm.io avatar

has been down all morning. First time I've seen that, from what I remember. Hugs to whoever is working on getting search back right now.

wrobertson,
@wrobertson@mstdn.io avatar

@anderseknert
Ah crap, I saw the other reply but not that one.

Anyway, my point was more that the Microsoft ops team deserves hugs too.

Yes, even though they're from Microsoft. :windows:

anderseknert,
@anderseknert@hachyderm.io avatar

@wrobertson absolutely ❤️

Yoss1960,
@Yoss1960@mastodon.me.uk avatar

I've tried in multiple browsers, both with and without plugins enabled, yet DuckDuckGo is still failing to provide search results (here, at least) just responding;

There was an error displaying the search results. Please try again.

It's been this way for several hours. Anyone else seeing the same? I'm in the UK.

Yoss1960,
@Yoss1960@mastodon.me.uk avatar

@smallcircles @helma @Mojeek

I like @Mojeek but (sometimes) the lack of image results can be frustrating.

Mojeek,
@Mojeek@mastodon.social avatar

@Yoss1960 @smallcircles @helma openverse instead of pixabay might improve things (you can do this via the dropdown on the results page or permanently in preferences)

kaffeeringe, German
@kaffeeringe@social.tchncs.de avatar

Boah. Ich merke heute, WIE OFT ich am Tag #duckduckgo benutze.

kaffeeringe,
@kaffeeringe@social.tchncs.de avatar

@JoergA Das mit den Bangs war vorhin noch nicht da. Das rettet mich immer noch. 😄

kaffeeringe,
@kaffeeringe@social.tchncs.de avatar

@nilz @sieben_grafik Das war mir so auch nicht klar. Und in der #Wikipedia liest sich das auch anders.

rakoo,

Puisque DDG semble (semblait ?) avoir des problèmes et qu'il est temps de penser à des alternatives, en voilà une autre: @metapress

C'est une extension à installer dans son ordinateur qui va aller directement interroger les moteurs de recherche internes à chaque site.

  • C'est garanti sans intermédiaire qui fait des choses avec nos données (mais du coup pose problème pour trier)
  • c'est du vrai web parce que mon user-agent va interroger les sources et pas un proxy
  • c'est impossible de consommer moins d'énergie que ça parce que juste pas de datacenter ni de machines à fabriquer et faire tourner 24/7
  • c'est garanti libre de bout en bout: https://framagit.org/Siltaar/meta-press-ext

Merci à @Siltaer pour le taff

#DuckDuckGo

loewe, German
@loewe@metalhead.club avatar

oh sieht aus als wäre #DuckDuckGo wieder online 🥳

kubikpixel,
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

@loewe nutze ich nicht, eben wegen der abhängigkeit und deren verpflichtete datenweitergabe und dadurch vorgegaukelten prifatsphäre:

🔗 :mastodon: https://chaos.social/@kubikpixel/112489975784295445

jxrxme,
@jxrxme@metalhead.club avatar

@loewe Das ging aber flott! 😉

timesandseasons,
@timesandseasons@mastodo.neoliber.al avatar

While is down, I tried out a few other search engines. I did a search I made yesterday in each. gave me an interesting looking blog first, then some less-related info from high-trust sources, then an interesting paper, then a bunch of garbage. gave me nothing that looked interesting, just pages that used some of the words from my search. gave me the less-related high-trust sources first, then the entire rest of the first page looked interesting.

timesandseasons,
@timesandseasons@mastodo.neoliber.al avatar

@Mojeek I was searching "history of English in Estonia" after being curious why a film made in Estonia was in English. The search gave me a bunch of histories of Estonia, which would make sense if the search is keyword based but wasn't useful. Perhaps if I were to be a consistent Mojeek user, I'd become used to avoiding words like "history" that would bring up a bunch of uninteresting results.

Mojeek,
@Mojeek@mastodon.social avatar

@timesandseasons this is correct, and we are gradually adding in more semantic matching, but this is a fine line as detailed in our February update post here: https://blog.mojeek.com/2024/02/major-algorithm-update.html

Thanks a lot for sharing this example, it has been logged.

ottaross,
@ottaross@mastodon.social avatar

I used Google for the first time in maybe five years, as it appears that The Duck is down just now :(

autolycos,
@autolycos@med-mastodon.com avatar

@ottaross having gone through the past 30 years of the Internet, I have been there too

ottaross,
@ottaross@mastodon.social avatar

@autolycos Yeah, know what you mean, It feels very deja vu lately.

I remember AltaVista being this great search engine, then they suddenly loaded their hit results with ads, and we thought "they're destroying themselves!" and soon Goog just showed up and ate their lunch.

I'm ever hopeful there's a new lunch eater but sadly it may be that the current incumbent is able to exert so much pressure they can't be unseated now. :(

Floppy,
@Floppy@mastodon.me.uk avatar

going down again ( to everyone there) has really reminded my how much my unconscious workflow depends on a search engine these days.

Floppy,
@Floppy@mastodon.me.uk avatar

@simonwood oh... crap.

I guess we need a federated search engine now, in that case.

slowe,
@slowe@mastodon.me.uk avatar

@Floppy Thanks for confirming it wasn't just me.

brunus, French
@brunus@mamot.fr avatar

DuckDuckGo est dans les choux... c'est sans doute le moment de metre ZoTop en moteur de recherche par défaut ?

brunus,
@brunus@mamot.fr avatar

Ha et Qwant semble cassé aussi mais ça on s'en fout... notez qu'il me semble que DDG et Qwant s'appuient sur Bing... mais Bing lui fonctionne...

Philheck,
@Philheck@mamot.fr avatar

@brunus J'utilise depuis peu Spot 🇨🇵 :linux: 👍 No problem !
https://spot.ecloud.global/

dbrgn, German
@dbrgn@chaos.social avatar

ist jetzt glaubs schon seit über 12 Stunden kaputt 🙄

nblr,
@nblr@chaos.social avatar

@dbrgn Sehr zufrieden damit, tbh. Und funktioniert auch heute :D

dbrgn,
@dbrgn@chaos.social avatar

@nblr ich hab's vor etwa einem jahr mal getestet (bis zum request limit im trial), damals hat's mir aber noch zu wenig mehrwert für ein abo geboten. ist inzwischen vielleicht besser.

skarfester, Spanish
@skarfester@framapiaf.org avatar
stevoooo,
@stevoooo@emacs.ch avatar

Gah, had no idea that #DuckDuckGo was using #Bing as a backend. My strict "no-Microsoft" policy means that I've now got to find another search engine...

louis,
@louis@emacs.ch avatar

@brianch @stevoooo Just that it is still down ;-) When using DDG, you essentially fund Microsoft and still have crappy results. And ads.

louis,
@louis@emacs.ch avatar

@brianch @stevoooo Essentially it all boils down to the question if one still wants to support and fund Google and Microsoft, even if it is through an intermediary.

Is it functional? Yes. It is ethical? No.

Arguing this way, why not use Windows? Why not use Visual Studio Code? Why not use Gmail and all the other gratis products where the user is the product but doesn't have to pay?

Spending 5 bucks a month doesn't sound too terrible for me to have a high-quality product and helping a team of independent devs to ramp up an independent index.

fredenbois, French
@fredenbois@mamot.fr avatar

La panne de / / c'est une tentative de censure du gouvernement en Nouvelle-Calédonie qui a mal tourné ?

dlb,
@dlb@mamot.fr avatar

@fredenbois la femme de ménage a branché son aspi sur la prise d'une armoire?

fredenbois,
@fredenbois@mamot.fr avatar

@dlb à mon avis c'est l'IA de copilot qui a décidé de se suicider quand elle a vu qu'elle tournait sur Windows

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