Hux,

So they are getting rid of digital downloads. Terrible news

They are not getting rid of downloads.

support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/…/10

support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/…/10

I do not appreciate seeing click bait on Lemmy. Please join me in reporting this post as clickbait.

small44,

I guess i didn’t express it correctly. I know that music i already purchase could be transfered to apple music but once itunes is dead for music, you could not buy any new music

Hux,

Again, you are assuming too much.

In the first link I provided:

Buy music from the iTunes Store: If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favourite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorised computers and devices (up to 10 total).

2xsaiko,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

This is about the programs, not the services. Apple Music on Mac can also buy music from iTunes despite not being called iTunes anymore.

tristan,

It even says it in the article op linked

The Apple Music app provides access to the iTunes library, alongside song and album purchases. Apple TV also lets Windows users watch movies and TV shows from their iTunes library

Gregu,
@Gregu@lemmy.ca avatar

Note that you can still download your music, movies and tv shows for offline use. These are basically the same apps that Mac users have been using instead of iTunes for awhile now.

trailblazer911,

The Apple Music App is just a web browser in disguise. It’s bug-ridden too. Although Lossless Audio works fine.

2xsaiko,
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Oh god. I thought at least Apple had some standard of quality left for the software they’re releasing. Though considering this isn’t for their own platform, and their track record for their other Windows software (at least iTunes) maybe I shouldn’t be too surprised.

rhebucks-zh,

I didn't expect Apple to use their resources on non-Mac apps.

Telodzrum,

Then you haven’t been paying attention. They’ve supported iTunes quite well on Windows for decades and iCloud for as long as it’s been around. Hell, Apple Music has a better Android UX than YouTube Music does.

BigDanishGuy,

Hell, Apple Music has a better Android UX than YouTube Music does.

That’s a pretty low bar to jump.

Telodzrum,

Oh, it absolutely is.

rhebucks-zh,

Especially with that Fischer-Price "Material You" trash that ruined years of work on making the interface more subdue and classy enough

Roldyclark,

This is already how it is on Mac. Kind of sucks because I don’t use apple streaming and it takes up half the app. Wish I could turn it off and just have a UI focused on my downloads.

BearOfaTime,

God I despise UWP. I even uninstall the Microsoft Store on my machines.

Google and MS are working double time to force us into fully-web-hosted everything.

pycorax,

I’d take a native UWP app over shitty bloated electron based apps any day. Aside from games, they work pretty well in my experience.

FeelThePower,

I’ve been using soulseek and 3utools ever since they made iTunes a Microsoft store app. guess I’m not surprised it ended up like this.

stoy,

I didn’t see anything mentioning getting rid of downloads of music, has that been confirmed?

Hux,

You can 100% continue to purchase content and add to your library. Just because the apps have split (as they already have on Apple’s own platforms), does not mean you can not download purchased content or continue to purchase new content for download.

support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/…/10

Buy music from the iTunes Store If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favorite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorized computers and devices (up to 10 total).

CannonGoBoom,
@CannonGoBoom@lemmy.world avatar

According to this support article, they are still allowing downloads

support.apple.com/en-au/guide/tvapp-windows/…/10

small44,

That’s only for music you already bought just like Google did with Youtube music when they killed Google Play Music

stoy,

Yeah, I still buy all my music on my phone, I don’t like renting it…

Hux,

You can 100% continue to purchase content and add to your library. Just because the apps have split (as they already have on Apple’s own platforms), does not mean you can not download purchased content or continue to purchase new content for download.

support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/…/10

Buy music from the iTunes Store If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favorite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorized computers and devices (up to 10 total).

CaptainBasculin,

Super TLDR: iTunes is splitting into three apps on Windows: Devices, TV and Music

SinningStromgald,

Now there three apps I will never need. Good to know.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Three apps not to install instead of just one means more work. Thanks Apple!

Rai,

I’m actually super down for this. The only thing I use iTunes for is to make encrypted incremental image backups of my phone and iPad. I’d love to just have a specific program for that, rather than all of the iTunes bloat.

As much as I dislike iTunes. Having a one-click encrypted incremental backups is fucking stellar.

Dariusmiles2123,

If only they could create such an app for Linux. That way I could just ditch my windows virtual machine and not try to create a macOS virtual machine🙏

JackGreenEarth,

github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM Is good is you want to make a MacOS VM on Linux.

Dariusmiles2123,

Thanks for the answer. It’s still a bit too complicated for me as it involves way more work than just setting up a windows VM in Gnome boxes.

I might still look at some video tutorials if I can find some 👍

JackGreenEarth,

It’s not so difficult if you don’t need to spoof a serial number. It does take hours of just waiting for it to install, though.

Rai,

Ah shoot. I didn’t realize they don’t have that. I guess I will hafta keep a windows computer/partition around when I switch over fully.

Or a VM is a good idea, I suppose—thank you!

Dariusmiles2123,

The VM way works really well and is easier to setup than a dual boot.

In my experience, windows always wants to be alone on your system 😅

Rai,

My close friend told me

NEVER INSTALL BOTH ON YOUR MAIN DRIVE IT WILL FUCK YOUR BOOTLOADER

will windows on an external SSD work okay for games and stuff? I’m mega new to Linux.

MilderRichter,

i’ve used windows and linux on separate drives in the same desktop for ages and it’s been working fine.

I’m using windows mostly for games that aren’t available natively and don’t work via wine/proton

Rai,

Perfect, thank you. I’ll set up Pop! and Wandows on separate drives then.

Iamdanno,

Three apps, plus still needing iTunes for podcasts. Thanks, Apple.

Bunch of jabronis

restingboredface,

Is this in response to the antitrust stuff they’ve been dealing with in Europe? I thought they had tried to split software into different “services” before to avoid oversight (I think they did it with their web browser).

CosmoNova,

Found iTunes impossible to uninstall back in the Win7 days and never used it since. Also Spotify exists and is still acceptable enough to use so…

small44,

There’s still people like me who want to buy digital albums. A lot of artists refuse to put their music on Bandcamp but have music on itunes

CosmoNova,

Well, when there’s a service problem, I’d rather sail than ‘buying’ digital.

atocci,
atocci avatar

Unless things have changed, you get unencrypted MP3s when buying from iTunes.

small44,

I don’t wan to pay for music i don’t own, the free version of Spotify is pretty useless due to the severe limitations, spotify grayed a lot of songs in my playlists because of uncleared samples and I also want to support artists when I can afford it

Since i’m not paying for streaming services, I can’t download the tracks for offline playback and on Spotify the limit is 10k tracks but my library is over 40k tracks.I also think local players are better than sttreaming services players. My music player Musicolet is the only music player that allows me to create queues so i don’t have to remember the latest track i listened to on every playlists

ianovic69,
@ianovic69@feddit.uk avatar

You know you can still buy CDs?

If you must have digital files there are plenty of ways to get them from a streaming service. But buying digital files of music is imo where the line should be drawn.

I will even buy or rent new film releases from a main platform if I missed it at the cinema, etc.

But owning music is a very personal thing. I have CDs going back to the first days of the format, many of which are very sentimental. Being able to stream them is like magic to me. But there is no reason I can think of to pay for a digital file of them or any music that can be found on CD or streamed.

Each to their own, of course. I just find the concept of digital file purchase for music utterly abhorrent. Once it became apparent that the music industry was going to do this, I vowed never to do it and I think it was a good decision.

The streaming services are a convenience that we have to decide on the value to us as users, despite their many obvious faults. But paying to own a, usually compressed, audio file? I can’t agree that’s good for consumers.

small44,

I don’t want to take care of physical media due to my disorganization, I also listen to music a lot outside so I have to own the digital version too. Music released on CD is become more rare anyway. I also like the flexibility of digital music locally I can back it up in multiple places, I can remove bad songs easily and i can bring my music everywhere instead of bringing a collection of cd’s and can risk of forgetting them . I’m also not an audiophile I can’t even hear the difference between 128 kbps and 320 kbps MP3’s, I value artistic quality and not audio quality.

Hux,

You can 100% continue to purchase content and add to your library. Just because the apps have split (as they already have on Apple’s own platforms), does not mean you can not download purchased content or continue to purchase new content for download.

support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/…/10

Buy music from the iTunes Store If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favorite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorized computers and devices (up to 10 total).

ianovic69,
@ianovic69@feddit.uk avatar

I also listen to music a lot outside so I have to own the digital version too.

Why, are you not able to stream it?

CD is become more rare anyway.

I’m not sure that’s true. Are there numbers you can point to to back that up?

flexibility of digital music locally

I can make Spotify store locally. It’s really weird how fast that is come to think of it. Very useful for patchy data. Easy to skip tracks you don’t want as well.

bring my music everywhere

I use Spotify but I think ITunes does similar. I feel strongly about Apple products though so I’ve no experience.

I’m also not an audiophile

Although this has no impact on streaming or use of temporary downloads, or any relevance to your need for purchasing audio files, I am what many would refer to as an audiophile.

I have worked as an audio engineer in music recording and post production, I own professional audio reproduction equipment and I make my own music as a hobby.

Even so, being able to throw on a favourite album, old or new, while driving or at the beach or a friend’s house, is to me akin to magic.

Hux,

You can 100% continue to purchase content and add to your library. Just because the apps have split (as they already have on Apple’s own platforms), does not mean you can not download purchased content or continue to purchase new content for download.

support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/…/10

Buy music from the iTunes Store If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favorite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorized computers and devices (up to 10 total).

Takeshidude,

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

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