lnxtx,
@lnxtx@feddit.nl avatar

Collateral damage /s

TheUncannyObserver,

Those were the wrong civilians. Whoopsie!

CocktailSucker,

They’re just killers, fuckin jews

naturalgasbad,
Ab_intra,
@Ab_intra@lemmy.world avatar

Careful with this source. I got sceptical the moment I saw it.

naturalgasbad,

AA is just translating a Hebrew interview given on Channel 12 in Israel. Channel 12 (Keshet 12) is the most viewed TV channel in Israel.

breakfastmtn, (edited )
@breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar

Is there a link to that? This was published 10 hours ago and I can’t find any corroboration. AA seems to be the only one reporting and they’re a somewhat questionable source. It also seems a bit odd that a Turkish news org would be the only one reporting or commenting on an interview from the most watched channel in Israel.

Edit: I think in this specific case, this source is highly questionable. They are “controlled by the right-wing ruling party and [have] a very strong pro-government state bias,” and Erdogan has formally taken a pro-Hamas position.

naturalgasbad,

A recording of the original TV report: uncaptured.media/…/fresh-testimony-reveals-how-is…

As well as: middleeastmonitor.com/20231211-survivor-of-kibbut…

Western media doesn’t report on news that isn’t in English. I’m not sure why this is surprising to you?

breakfastmtn,
@breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar

An article from a former RT America reporter wasn’t exactly what I was looking for. The media in the second link is no longer available. Given they’re known for using poor and questionable sources, I can imagine why. Do you have a credible source for this?

“Western media doesn’t report on news that isn’t in English” is such a comically stupid thing to say. Much of “western media” reports primarily in non-English languages. The BBC broadcasts in more than 40 languages. You can’t possibly think that, like, the BBC or the NYT only report on news from English speakers, can you?

naturalgasbad,

I’m asking you watch the TV recording, not read the article. You’re free to pump it through any of the LLM live translation services out there if you don’t speak Hebrew.

Jesus Christ

breakfastmtn,
@breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s an edited video on a guy’s blog who was employed by one of the most infamous propaganda networks in the world.

naturalgasbad,

So… they fake-dubbed a person talking and prayed that nobody watching the news spoke Hebrew? That’s some impressive stuff.

breakfastmtn,
@breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar

There are myriad ways to lie with video. Neither of us have any idea what was added or removed. I’m not saying with certainty that it’s false. I’m saying that once this untrustworthy person got their hands on this video and edited it, it was tainted. We can’t determine whether it was edited in good faith without another source.

naturalgasbad,

Another source, which I also provided…

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Source is okay.

dumdum666,

Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: Turkey
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: LIMITED FREEDOM
Media Type: News Agency
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

History

Anadolu Agency or AA, launched in 1920 and was originally founded by Halide Edip Adıvar, Yunus Nadi Abalıoğlu. It is the official state-subsidized news agency of Turkey. Anadolu Agency is based in Tandoğan, Ankara, Turkey. Şenol Kazancı is the CEO and Mustafa Fuat ER is the Editor.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/anadolu-agency/

roastedDeflator,
roastedDeflator avatar

The link you provided has the following for Times of Israel:

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: Israel
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MODERATE FREEDOM
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

lol

Infiltrated_ad8271,
Infiltrated_ad8271 avatar

This site is a bad joke. I see some media in my country widely recognized for having been unmasked for repeatedly spreading hoaxes, marked as "high credibility".

dumdum666,

What are you laughing about?

MBFC is even part of rule 3 of this community. If you don’t like it maybe you should leave the community?

naturalgasbad,

You’d think that the minimum standard for a site that’s evaluating media bias and factuality would be that you know what the evaluator looks like.

Infiltrated_ad8271, (edited )
Infiltrated_ad8271 avatar

What's your pseudo-argument? Or do you agree with some mod's criteria or are you leaving?
Damn gatekeepers.

dumdum666,

Nice ad hominem you got there

If you don’t like what MBFC says about your favorite propaganda outlet, maybe tell the Mods that you are sad about it?

Infiltrated_ad8271, (edited )
Infiltrated_ad8271 avatar

Lol, you use an ad hominem against the other user, accuse me of doing it to you for criticizing you for it, and now you use another one against me plus straw man. If you don't understand fallacies don't accuse others of using them, it's embarrassing.

dumdum666,

You are using words that don’t mean what you think they mean. Maybe read up about them before trying to impress other people with them?

Infiltrated_ad8271, (edited )
Infiltrated_ad8271 avatar

Then I'll say a few more: You are projecting.
At least I think we agree on something, this is a waste of time. Bye, please block me.

dumdum666,

I wouldn’t want to miss out on your other takes, why would I block you? Are you scared that you couldn’t spread your bad faith arguments anymore?

naturalgasbad,

“Especially during this period, we call on the media to show responsibility in their reporting and base their news only on official sources.”

Separately, the Israeli censor unit, affiliated with the army’s intelligence department, sent a letter to the press on Oct. 26, imposing restrictions on news related to Gaza.

They said all news and visuals concerning the course of the war in the Gaza Strip and activities of the Israeli army should be sent to their censor unit before publication.

naturalgasbad,

‘At that point, it was clear to me that our role is to be a human shield between our forces that arrived and them (Hamas),’ says Hadas Dagan

“I will never forget the children’s screams” Dagan said, with tears falling down her face, as she described the moment of the twins’ death.

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

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  • naturalgasbad,

    Terrorists using human shields is always the worst. ISIS did the same thing in Iraq.

    Israel is indeed equivalent to ISIS. What a poignant observation.

    YoBuckStopsHere,
    @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

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  • naturalgasbad,

    ‘At that point, it was clear to me that our role is to be a human shield between our forces that arrived and them (Hamas),’ says Hadas Dagan

    You do realize that this statement was made with respect to the IDF using Dagan as a human shield against Hamas, right?

    Marsupial,
    @Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

    States causing genocide is always the worst. Hitler did the same thing in Germany.

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