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Bloonface, to fediverse in The enshittification of “enshittification”
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For example, I spent years on Reddit happily arguing with wrong people, deriving my "value" from just having fun interacting with folks about stuff. The server resources that Reddit expended supporting that were fairly trivial in dollar terms. [...] Instead Reddit hired 2000 staff for some reason

They hired 2000 staff because they were running one of the most highly-trafficked websites on the Internet, with hundreds of millions of users, something which unsurprisingly takes quite a lot of people to administer and maintain. Were Reddit to not invest in people and resources to keep the website running at that scale, you would not be able to use it in the way you enjoy and it would have nowhere near as much utility to you.

This is the entire point of the article that you missed - there are a shit-ton of costs in running a massive community that have to come from somewhere. Your approach is "well I don't think those costs are necessary". But they are.

Bloonface, to fediverse in The enshittification of “enshittification”
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You really couldn't be more wrong.

You don't have to be a Randroid or a libertarian, or even right wing, to understand that a discourse predicated on everyone getting everything for free with no real trade-off doesn't really make sense in the real world.

Bloonface, to tech in Meta officially launches Twitter rival Threads. 10 million have joined already
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For context, Instagram has two BILLION users. Facebook has just shy of three billion.

Mastodon has a total of ten million.

Bloonface, to worldnews in Aspartame a possible carcinogen, WHO cancer research agency expected to say
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It gives my partner absolutely banging migraines in more than tiny quantities. I find it gives me huge cravings for junk food about an hour or two after drinking it.

I'd be happy if it disappeared.

Bloonface, to world in Aspartame: Sweetener used in Diet Coke possibly causes cancer, WHO set to declare
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You've literally quoted two industry bodies who have a vested interest in keeping aspartame on the market.

Bloonface, to technology in “Reddit cannot survive without its moderators. It cannot.” - The Verge
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Should have thought about that before you started treating them like serfs.

Bloonface, to technology in What search engine do you use?
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I've always been underwhelmed with DuckDuckGo as a search engine, and for context on that remark I use Bing as my main search engine.

Bloonface, to technology in What search engine do you use?
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Same here.

I find that Bing is about on par with Google now, with the added side benefit that Microsoft pay me to use it.

Bloonface, to technology in Google is laying off employees at Waze
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I use Waze but will absolutely not follow some of its more stupid routes.

I will happily spend an extra half a minute on a journey to not have to go through a bunch of winding side streets and then try and pull out onto a busy main road, rather than just staying on the main roads.

Bloonface, to fediverse in If ActivityPub can't survive Meta, it was never going to succeed in the first place
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ODF has been supported natively by Office for years now, and LibreOffice is able to open .docx files just fine.

I've never found a PDF "broken by Adobes bs".

Bloonface, to fediverse in If ActivityPub can't survive Meta, it was never going to succeed in the first place
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No trying to be explicitly contrarian, but the EEE strategy (embrace, extend, extinguish) is well known by this point and it always ended up with the open standard not being used anymore and falling into irrelevance (as it happened to XMPP after google and Facebook embraced).

XMPP was irrelevant before Google and Facebook had anything to do with it.

Bloonface, to technology in Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
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That article has been posted several times and does not explain how Google "destroyed" XMPP - it assumes that XMPP was some hot shit everyone was using before Google and Facebook picked it up, when in reality it was used by next to nobody, most people who used it with Google or Facebook were just using it to talk to other Google or Facebook users, XMPP doesn't support a lot of features that consumers now expect in messaging, and since Google and Facebook dropped it it has returned to being a niche FOSS thing - only now its advocates blame Google and Facebook for its failure rather than the fact it's not a very good protocol and nobody uses it.

Bloonface, to technology in Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
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Not stellar? We're having this conversation, aren't we?

The fact that I (nerd that knows all sorts of shit about fedi and is interested in tech topics) am able to use Kbin/fedi to converse with other nerds that know about fedi and are interested in tech does not mean that the fediverse is a storming success.

I can have a conversation with one other person using tin cans and string. This does not mean that tin cans and string are the future of telecommunications.

In reality the people who I have tried to get on here who do not fall in that category were either disinterested from the start, were turned off by the complexity of how it works or stopped coming on it when it turned out there was nothing for them here.

Bloonface, to technology in Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
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I have read that and been linked that multiple times.

I responded to it here: https://finecity.social/notes/9gcoisoofl

tl;dr: Facebook and Google didn't "destroy" XMPP. XMPP was used by basically nobody before Facebook and Google picked it up, and after they dropped it again XMPP is still used by basically nobody. Its spec also doesn't include support for features that consumers expect to have in messaging software, which is part of why nobody uses it.

Bloonface, to technology in Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
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Facebook didn't "destroy" XMPP. XMPP was a tiny messaging protocol nobody used, Facebook picked it up for a bit, stopped using it after a while, and then XMPP returned to being a tiny messaging protocol nobody used.

People are acting like Jabber was hot shit when Facebook picked it up, and its present state of irrelevance is because of big bad Zuck. No, no fucker used Jabber and it saw basically no mainstream adoption until Facebook and Google got involved, and as soon as Facebook and Google weren't involved (as it turns out that XMPP actually kind of sucks and its unique features are things end users don't care about) it returned to being a complete irrelevance. A well-intentioned irrelevance, to be sure, but an irrelevance.

Fediverse is the same, mutans mutandis. We're tiny. I know it's nice for us to psyche ourselves up and say that we're going to destroy the big bad corporate media! but in reality we are a niche constellation of social networks that has literally 0.1% of Facebook's user base and whose adoption has been, shall we say, not stellar.

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