Vision Pro

jimmylittle,
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

Calling all nerds:

Is there a non-Safari browser that anyone can recommend?

I have to access Confluence and JIRA. Confluence tables are basically un-editable in Safari on visionOS for some reason. Arrow keys don't work, and the cells are too small to reliably use look-and-pinch.

jakecarpenter,
@jakecarpenter@hachyderm.io avatar

@jimmylittle the only other one I’ve heard of is Lens. Will ask my coworker tomorrow and come back if he has any recommendations.

jimmylittle,
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

Working on my today as a "monitor" for my work laptop for the first time in a while to see if it will work on an upcoming trip. Thoughts:

  • why doesn't the sound mirror to the VP speakers? It's not even an AirPlay target, it should be.
  • Occlusion should always show my keyboard, even when fully immersed.
  • Working in an environment is kinda nice.
  • Universal Clipboard is great to move data between native VP apps and Mac apps.
  • Universal Control rocks.
  • VP needs ⌘-Tab
kaplag,
@kaplag@mastodon.social avatar

@jimmylittle wish I felt the same. After multiple times trying I’d rather use my 13” retina display for a day of work than have a larger, lower quality display that kinda strains my eyes after an hour. Just doesn’t seem worth the bulk of carrying around the Apple Vision Pro in addition to a laptop for things I could easily do on my laptop. But guess that’s just me. Curious how you feel after more days of it.

Also +1 to Cmd tab. Or really any kind of multitasking.

jimmylittle,
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

@kaplag I'm gonna carry the VP anyway. The question for me was whether I needed to also carry my 16" portable USB-C monitor. The answer is no, I don't need to anymore.

So now it's laptop, VP, and iPad mini.

steveriggins,
@steveriggins@mastodon.social avatar

Took the to the Apple Store and finally got to use my case. I adore this case. It’s so much smaller than the Apple one. I should have taken a photo next to one.

Bryan,
@Bryan@macaw.social avatar

@pixel @steveriggins
Which case is it?

pixel,
@pixel@social.pixels.pizza avatar
mitjahmeljak,
@mitjahmeljak@mastodon.social avatar

What's #visionpro 's focal distance, for #Zeisslens optical insert #prescription , for people regularly using 3 separate glasses: 1.driving, 2.computer-distance, 3. #multifocal ?

Which one is it?
#askatp @atpfm @daringfireball

Returning incorrect/too strong Zeiss-provided inserts. Can't find Vision Pro focal distance information anywhere in official documentation.

mitjahmeljak,
@mitjahmeljak@mastodon.social avatar

@siracusa thanks!

Followup question, is the source reliable?

The eye doctor is figuring out what prescription to send Zeiss for a 2nd optical inserts order. For the 1st pair,Zeiss refused "computer distance",accepted "multifocal" prescription,sent me single-focal lenses too strong in Vision Pro:strong enough to use as driving glasses.

(...standard myopia+presbyopia, age>50 eyes aren't as accommodating in changing focus... is Vision Pro meant for young eyes only, despite what Apple/Zeiss say?)

siracusa,
@siracusa@mastodon.social avatar

@mitjahmeljak Unknown reliability. But keep in mind that the prescription you give Apple may be adjusted by some amount by Apple itself, for all we know. For example, maybe Apple wants your maximum distance prescription which it then adjusts down to whatever the Vision Pro’s focal length is. Or not? Hard to know anything other than whatever Apple recommends.

steveriggins,
@steveriggins@mastodon.social avatar

I filed a feedback about my erratic eye tracking on my #VisionPro and got some useful information:

“Unfortunately, the artificial lenses that are implanted during a Cataract surgery can sometimes cause interference with Apple Vision Pro’s eye tracking. This can manifest in unstable, or erratic tracking and highlighting.”

Damn 😢

kaiserkiwi,
@kaiserkiwi@corteximplant.com avatar

@steveriggins Soubds frustrating, but at least they know ofnit and know what the problem exactly is. So this could potentially be fixed in a revision or maybe even with Software.

danb,
@danb@qoto.org avatar

Thoughts after Apple iPad event with implications for : Today, Apple positioned iPad and VisionPro for professional use, including movie production and sound editing (e.g., FinalCut & Logic Pro on the iPad), and training (VisionPro). They also updated the Apple Pencil. Here's an exciting idea:

An issue to some with Vision Pro has been the lack of strong integration of hand controllers, especially compared to more gaming-centric headsets. For serious use of VisionPro's initial major pro app, Excel, I think it helps to use a physical keyboard and trackpad, which it does support. But that's not rich enough for many more advanced uses.

I think in the not-too-distant future we’ll see the iPad integrated with VisionPro like the Mac started, if not more so. You’ll use an iPad, perhaps with a Magic Keyboard, and the new Apple Pencil Pro for professional-level control. Having both a pencil, with squeeze, twirl, haptic-feedback, hover, etc., along with the current full-motion hand and arm movement in 3D-space, gives you the start of a very rich and precise way of interacting with spatial computing. Moving on the hard iPad surface could be quite superior to waving something in the air or using a joystick. The Mac is not for using a pen, but the iPad is. I’m thinking long-term, not just the current headset. The videos they showed of their pro-apps on iPad, and the VisionPro update which included touting a film director using it to oversee the editing and visual effects for an upcoming film, hinted towards this convergence to me. I wonder if it's true.

danb,
@danb@qoto.org avatar

Reading some comments, I think I wasn't clear enough about the role of the iPad. I was assuming the pen would normally manipulate things you see elsewhere, not under it. Like a mouse. The iPad could add context, but especially to add electronics and computing power to interact with the pen, and an appropriate surface on which to move the pen.

gbevin,
@gbevin@uwyn.net avatar

I designed the missing minimal Vision Pro accessory for travel, if you already have a great camera backpack.

This is an easy 3D print and I'm giving it away for free.

https://www.printables.com/model/870502-the-missing-minimal-vision-pro-case-with-airtag-su

#visionpro #3dprinting #protection #minimalcase #freemodel

elkraneo,
@elkraneo@mastodon.social avatar

I made a list of all the accessibility options that are currently available on the Apple Vision Pro and tried to put them in perspective. Here are some of the first things I found
https://medium.com/@elkraneo/the-largest-list-of-accessibility-features-43e861d07e40

jimmylittle,
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

I really like my and still use it all the time, but I think Apple missed the boat a bit. The Meta Raybans are a more practical face computer.

If Apple had created sunglasses that had a decent camera, Apple Music/Podcasts, and Siri built in for $300, it probably would have been a massive success.

Bryan,
@Bryan@macaw.social avatar

@jimmylittle sounds like you want something like a #VisionAir instead of #VisionPro

jimmylittle,
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

@Bryan I want both! Air for the streets and Pro for the.. couch?

jachym,
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sesivany,
@sesivany@floss.social avatar

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ppatel,
@ppatel@mstdn.social avatar

Porn for Apple Vision pro is here.

How Amateur Performers Are Making Porn in the Apple Vision Pro

https://www.404media.co/apple-vision-pro-porn/

#VisionPro #apple #porn

paulthenerd,
@paulthenerd@cupoftea.social avatar

@ppatel be honest, who didn’t see this coming?

ppatel,
@ppatel@mstdn.social avatar

@paulthenerd yep. It's fascinating to watch the experiments though.

mzagaja,
@mzagaja@mastodon.social avatar

Had my library 3D print the @christianselig #VisionPro stand. Learned a lot about 3D printing and think I spent an hour removing supports. That said looks great. Just need a dowel now.

mzagaja,
@mzagaja@mastodon.social avatar

@christianselig yeah they also had lots of "curling" issues with the base I was told. Think makerbot is maybe just not the ideal 3D printer to do this with.

christianselig,
@christianselig@mastodon.social avatar

@mzagaja Hmm, interesting, I admittedly don't have experience with a wide range of printers haha

desplesda,

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jbrewer_jera,
jbrewer_jera,

@Migueldeicaza Fortunately I live two towns over. Instead of an entire continent, I just had to cross Sunnyvale.

Migueldeicaza,
@Migueldeicaza@mastodon.social avatar

@jbrewer_jera I am going to watch TikToks on my VisionPro to join you folks spiritually on the fun.

danilo,
@danilo@hachyderm.io avatar

This is absolutely the correct approach for product development and I have no idea if Apple is actually going to break the habit of their hermitage

The stakes are high enough that they SHOULD radically re-examine their approach.

Their value proposition is, essentially, managed IT. They’re gonna sell you a thing and they’re going to make sure it doesn’t fuck itself up just because you looked at some porn.

Okay, people need that. But…
https://qoto.org/@danb/112176832593745551

danilo,
@danilo@hachyderm.io avatar

@Elucidating do you find it any improved?

danilo,
@danilo@hachyderm.io avatar

Back to

These are people who gave Apple an enormous amount of money sight unseen.

They said “I know what the future looks like, this is it, here’s my credit card.”

So maybe believe them! Maybe ask them a few more questions about the future.

They live there now, right? Find out how it’s going for them. Invite them to shape the nascent culture of 3D media. I think the exercise would be good for Apple, help them evolve in ways they have avoided.

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