Probably going to get a lot of hate, but you have no idea how many people I’ve fired for doing that. Request doesn’t mean mandate. The request gets denied and still don’t show up, well, then you didn’t need the job in the first place, so I’ll just go ahead and open your schedule up so you can look for a better job
Bro, I get it, your instance is so cool and so much better than lemmy.world. the Lemmy world users don’t even know they’re doing wrong, I started there before coming to programming.dev. chill out, please.
I don’t really see how it’s abuse. You start working at a company, you enter an agreement. A very low profile contractual obligation “You work here, follow our policies and guidelines for this amount of money”. If you agree and sign to that agreement then you are expected to hold up your end of the bargain. If you don’t hold up your end, then the agreement has been broken. That’s how business works. If you don’t like the policies at a company, don’t work at a company. If you don’t like the money, don’t agree to it.
Unfortunately, if the business schedule is so rigidly defined that it cannot handle unexpected absences, then someone is clearly unqualified for the position of management.
Signed, a former team manager, for a small team at that.
We are trading time. You get my expertise and in return, I get money for that expertise. The company does incur the risk of building the infrastructure and all the debt that usually results. I understand that, which is why I show up on time, I pay attention to my work, and I give my best while I’m there. Time off is crucial because I have a life outside of work. I don’t give one flying fuck if your business fails if I have no equity, so that time off if precious to me, as the employee.
Clearly! Lol Your message is literally “you’re not entitled to any personal time for whatever reason, no matter how much it means to you or how much in advance you ask for it, because I own you and me being petty is more important than your personal life”, all under the guise of a contract that can absolutely be arranged in time.
You sound like the most inflexible, frigid, and arrogant managers out there who relish on making people miserable. You’re not a leader, you just want to feel like someone’s boss. You’re part of the problem.
Spoken like someone who’s never been management. You can prepare for everyone outcome you can think of, and there’ll still be that one person to throw a wrench in the plans
Also have been management and have since started a new career. If your company can have any unfixable issue caused by a single (or even a half dozen) people, the systems you built are weak.
At least the block button is convenient and useable on communities and even instances, instead of not blocking “suicide watch trolling” and not having the ability to block extremist political subreddits.
Yeah, and they probably could get a job the next day flipping burgers at a McDonald’s that you didn’t work as a day shift manager. It costs you a lot more money to hire a new employee than it costs them to get a new service/retail job.
If you use an out of office request like a mandate, just be ready to be fired. No surprises, no power trips. If you wager your time with someone who is literally a broker of your time + (Labor), be ready for them to call you on it. It’s their job.
Found the shitty manager. Managers like this i ALWAYS treat like absolute shit while not breaking any rules. Every little mistake they make no matter how small i report to corporate. I make their life a living hell only because of their attitude. I’ve managed to get 1 fired and another i managed to completely change the way they act at work. Felt pretty fuckin nice.
A manager should really find how the person acts before messing with them. You never know if you get a person like me who gives ZERO fucks about anybody no matter your position.
I go out of my way to make sure me and my employees are treated fairly. The employees i work with have families to feed and are scared to speak their mind. I don’t have family so I step up and defend my coworkers from shitty managers like you.
It’s not a request. It’s a polite reminder that your employees are people too with their own lives, and if you come between them and the people or things they care about, you get to find out real quick where you stand.
Try not to choke much more on that ego. I’m sure the constant turnover you’re bragging about must be real good for the bottom line.
I AM GOING ALL CAPS TO MAKE SURE THIS IS HEARD ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK. IF ANY OF THE REQUESTS MADE WERE MADE WITH PTO, THEN THAT TIME OFF WAS EARNED AND YOU, AS THE MANAGER, CAN FUCK 1,000,000% ALL THE WAY OFF.
And if those without PTO, this “request doesn’t mean mandate” is one of those, “you’re not wrong, you just sound like a nightmare to work for” kind of manager.
Now, after I’ve sounded like an asshole, I’ll bridge the gap by saying if you need a certain number of staff for regulatory reasons (e.g. patient to staff ratios in healthcare) that’s one thing. Workers who abuse time off requests are another. Dependable workers who don’t abuse time off requests should have no problem getting that time off. You very well may sound like why entire staffs walk out at once.
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