Daft_ish, (edited )

This is normal political discourse? Jesus.

astreus,

Are those labels really needed?

PhlubbaDubba,

But please white “leftists” tell us more about “but Biden same!”

wafflez,

white?

force, (edited )

racial minorities aren’t real silly, they’re a ploy by the music industry to sell more latino pop and hip-hop

oehm, (edited )

Biden approved 50% more oil and gas drilling on federal land than Trump did

Edit: since everyone is just dogpiling on the downvotes here, I was replying in the context of this comic implying only one party is driving USA oil consumption. Our oil dependence is independent of who is in charge and Biden hasn’t kept any of his promises of ending drilling on federal land. If anything the comic wrongly implies republicans are trying to cover it up, when in reality they openly flaunt oil drilling. It’s democrats that try to hide it behind empty promises and inefficient carbon capturing tech.

https://www.eenews.net/articles/what-bidens-oil-record-means-for-the-industrys-future/

PhlubbaDubba,

Yeah almost like a war broke out that created major supply shocks which would have impacted the ability of our major democratic allies to function!

But why let actual context get in the way of whining about how the dems are exactly the same as a christian fascist movement?

oehm,

Climate change won’t care about the excuses

Seasoned_Greetings,

Ok. Did Biden solicit taking a billion dollars to roll back existing climate protections?

Or did Biden just endorse a 1.2 billion dollar plan to build carbon capture facilities in the area of our refineries with the stated goal of being emission neutral by mid century?

Don’t act like your false equivalency makes Biden and trump the same.

astreus, (edited )

carbon capture facilities

These are a known scam, by the way. It’s just repackaging a technique oil companies already use to squeeze more oil out of the same fields and charge the government and consumers for the pleasure of feeling like they’ve done something.

Seasoned_Greetings, (edited )

Great, you linked an article with a claim about how carbon capture facilities are used by oil companies.

This isn’t that. My state, and several others are developing state controlled permanent storage sites for captured CO2 called class VI wells.

I’ll grant you that it isn’t a permanent or long term solution, but my point still stands that Trump is nakedly and publicly selling our future to oil companies and Biden is at least trying to do something to make things better. They are not the same.

astreus,

Going to go away and read about this. As a Brit living in Spain, I know very little about the ins and outs of what’s going on there.

astreus,

Okay this sounds interesting as a short term solution (though I don’t see what the medium and long term solutions will be) - I’d be interested in knowing what companies are benefiting from this and how much, etc and what the transition plans will be.

But there is one majorly fucked up part of the plan: this is an untested methodology, so they’re testing it under the homes of black and poor communities. Louisianan does not disappoint.

Seasoned_Greetings, (edited )

they’re testing it under the homes of black and poor communities

That’s the concern. Its still very much in the planning stages with decisions set to be made later on in the year about larger scale solutions. The people who that article talks about do have a voice and there’s a strong chance the state will bend to those concerns and choose somewhere else.

But yeah, Louisiana is a shitty state to live in in general. It ranks dead last in several metrics of civilized life out of the 50 states. It’s also heavily republican and politically backwards. But we’re trying to make progress.

SuckMyWang,

Isn’t this how America works?

Frozengyro,

Yes, but you need a middleman to get their cut, otherwise it’s a bribe. If you pay someone to bribe for you, it’s lobbying.

Yes, it’s fucked up how fucked up our fucked stuff is fucked.

Daft_ish,

Its speech! And that group of people over there jumping in piles of speech, that’s a person! Unless they’ve done a bad thing. Then they’re not a person and the speech is now jobs and we can’t take away jobs.

SuckMyWang,

I guess we should keep doing nothing. It’s sure is easier in the moment

barsquid,

No, the comic depicts wealthy people actually doing work instead of festering on society like bloated ticks.

lugal,

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