We were discussing the history of how NATO formed.
No you were justificating the formation of NATO. I am arguing that the NATO formation itself was a major reactionary force of aggression on thinly veiled pretext.
It was reflexive to the coup in Czechoslovakia 48’… A defensive alliance is more of an escalation than annexing 2 countries?
WW2 ended in 45’, the Soviets ran the coup in Czechoslovakia in 48’, NATO formed in a direct response to this in 49’.
Not sure what you mean by “annexing”. The Czechoslovak Socialist Republic (CSSR) was never formally a part of the Soviet Union. The USSR “running a coup” is a major stretch, as the communists inside the CSSR were not a minority and were quite capable of doing it themselves. And, again, the Warsaw pact was formed later, to which CSSR was indeed a member.
So yeah the formation of NATO is a major escalation run by fascists, to serve capitalists interests by being aggressive towards the USSR. Why are you so thick about it?
The Munich conference was in 38’ prior to the war, and prior to the beginnings of NATO.
Yes dude, and Poland was having a non aggression pact with Germany in 1934, so a non-aggression pact in 1939 from Stalin was him buying time for it was known that Hitler would expand east. Munich was basically screaming the invite for Hitler to go there after all.
I’m not arguing for it, I’m just trying to accurately depict the history of NATO’s relationship with the Russian federation.
Yeah you’re arguing and justificating it by saying shit like this: “You can go and look at the demilitarization of NATO from the 90’s all the way until 2014.”, because it doesn’t matter how much it demilitarized, when it shouldn’t have been formed in the first place and disbanded at the latest with the dissolution of the Warsaw pact. I’m not arguing NATO didn’t demilitarize after the dissolution of USSR. I’m arguing that the expansion east when there was no threat is - geopolitically speaking - an aggression.
Capitalist don’t want to pay for war equipment they don’t use, there’s just no profit return on military spending unless you are on the supply side like America.
Did you even bother to check how the US MIC is profiting off of the Ukraine war? Because you sound really naive saying things like:
You think an alliance that lasted multiple decades is just going to vanish overnight? Again, there is a process of demobilization that was well underway, that is until the Russians started playing their little game of partitions.
Having it kept around after the fall of the USSR is what made Russian “play their little game of paritions”. You made a friend a foe, which causes war and serves the MIC.
As I said before: you’re reversing cause and effect. Why are you so thick about it?
This is the frustrating thing, you could not academically honestly read that article and think that it proves your point.
It’s because you don’t understand the context and thus fail to read the subtext of it and the significance of the provided source…
You’re just looking up articles with headlines that are tangentially connected to your claim.
…, because when you provide a non-western or anti-capitalist source shitlibs usually to try to invalidate it. I failed you realize that you’d do regardless of source, because you don’t even grasp the context.
You just want to be performative and establish a rhetoric that suits your biases.
Your “lols” are?
I thought you might actually be interested in honest discourse