EatATaco

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EatATaco,

No you aren’t. You’re being told that this is all that’s happening, but you aren’t going to look for yourself.

EatATaco,

If you aren’t seeing the campaign because they aren’t reaching you, you still aren’t seeing this, and just being told what to think.

You’re basically reiterating my point, but somehow appear to be excusing being a sheep.

EatATaco,

If you claim the campaign is saying something, but openly admit the campaign is not reaching you, then you are doing exactly what I said: not looking for yourself and just parroting what you were told the are saying.

EatATaco,

Wtf are you even talking about? I’m so confused.

This isn’t difficult. The Biden campaign is not saying what the OP is claiming they “see a lot of,” he has provided plenty of platform and has seemingly gone out of his way to me minimize mentioning trump (although I expect that the change). The claim that it’s happening a lot is just mindlessly parroting a talking points being fed to them.

What don’t you understand about this?

EatATaco,

So it was just a pointless comment that had nothing to do with the point.

EatATaco,

It doesn’t have to fall in line to be useful. But I suggest that if you are jumping in to challenge a point you make it clear that your point has nothing to do with the point being made. Most people are going to respond to things considering the context.

EatATaco,

Yeah, but Clinton got some debate questions beforehand and private chatter clearly showed that the brass preferred her. This is literally unforgiveable because, just like braindead Trump supporters, I fell for the “it was rigged” despite the complete lack of evidence. And even worse in this case because Clinton crushed him!

EatATaco,

Moderate democrats were splitting the vote, and when all of them dropped out, the vote consolidated to a moderate candidate.

Are you basically arguing that, despite (unfortunately) not appealing to the average democratic voter, it’s somehow wrong that he didn’t win in favor of a politician who does?

EatATaco,

He did win against her. Until the Superdeligates swung the election in favor of where their money and the DNC wanted.

Holy shit, the delusion gets greater with every passing day.

Clinton crushed him, by like 12 percentage points. Millions of votes. Absolutely trounced, and it was clear from the start he was going to lose. You take the superdelegates out, Clinton still wins. You give all of the superdelegates from the districts that Sanders won, Clinton still crushes him. Superdelegates played near zero role in Sanders getting smashed by Clinton, unless you really want to stretch and say their pledging made people vote for her. . .but 12 percentage points of people? Nah. You gotta be crazy to believe that.

EatATaco,

nymag.com/…/positive-2015-media-coverage-for-sand…

On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders spent the first part of 2015 categorized as a likely loser who received very little media attention (indeed, the whole Democratic contest received relatively little attention until it became competitive). But once he gained traction, Bernie got some media buzz, and it wound up giving him the most positive media coverage of any candidate in either party, at least through 2015:

As his poll numbers ticked upward, [Sanders] was portrayed as a “gaining ground” candidate, a favorable storyline buttressed by reports of increasingly large crowds and enthusiastic followers. “The overflow crowds Sanders has been drawing in Iowa and New Hampshire,” said USA Today, “are signs that there is ‘a real hunger’ for a substantive discussion about Americans’ economic anxieties … .” The “real hunger” extended also to journalists, who are drawn to a candidate who begins to make headway against an odds-on favorite.

shorensteincenter.org/pre-primary-news-coverage-2…

Sanders’ coverage in 2015 was the most favorable of any of the top candidates, Republican or Democratic. For her part, Hillary Clinton had by far the most negative coverage of any candidate.

EatATaco,

Ftr, I voted for him in both 2016 and 2020 and I would vote for him today as well. I just recognize that I’m much further left than the average Democrat, and that this whole “Bernie was robbed!” is as rooted in reality as “Trump was robbed!”

EatATaco,

An improper relationship and something certainly to be suspicious about. But you aren’t pointing to anything that did actually sway or control the election.

I’m a proof is in the pudding guy, and it’s time to drop the whole narrative.

EatATaco,

Sure, but Biden got more than 50% of the vote, meaning even if all of her voters had flipped to sanders, Biden still wins.

EatATaco,

On golf courses? No, but every time I’ve seen one driving around out in public it hasn’t been some rich person, it has been some kind of working person. Usually like a security guard or someone doing some kind of service. Rich people drive their expensive cars.

EatATaco,

Funny that you would use an article about cops writing tickets to argue that speed cameras are bad. We all agree that speed traps suck and are wrong, but nothing in your article is about the topic, unattended speed cameras, and it mentions nothing of them doing anything shady, outside of aggressive enforcement.

EatATaco,

Vote strategically = you must be loyal

I guess. Lol

EatATaco,

If you want change here, it comes from the bottom up. But likely the most effort you want to put in is vainly checking the box next to a third party for POTUS: no effort but you can fool yourself into believing you’ve made a statement.

EatATaco,

I’ve said nothing about you criticizing anyone.

This is the second time you’ve grossly misrepresented my point.

Why do you feel the need to be so dishonest in “defense” if your position?

EatATaco,

Where did I say anything about you not being allowed to criticize anyone? It’s sounds like you are accusing me of being multiple people because other posters have made some argument that I did not… Which is quite frankly nuts.

EatATaco,

Agreed. But that really has nothing to do with the point; it’s not a “lock” it’s just what is going to happen when people act rationally.

EatATaco,

You’re saying to do the work for them, right after saying that giving them different rice to grow will put them out of business. Lol

And, yes, rice is a short cut. It’s unobtrusive as it doesn’t require anyone to change their diet or learn how to grow new things.

You want to go in there, drive farmers out of business by doing the work for them, and then expect everyone to just change their diets based on what you want them to eat.

EatATaco,

I feel that you’re intentionally trying to one up me instead actually have a proper discussion here.

Projection of the day, my friend. I’m sorry that the only example you actually floated immediately contradicted your previous position of not driving farmers out of business.

Expensive, hard work, job creating activities, instead of shortcuts.

Except there are kids whose lives and health we can save, right now, if we just start growing golden rice. Why this insistence on letting children die while you come up with a concrete solution that will take years to implement?

Also subsidize imports if Vitamin A rich foods to make up the difference if local yields are insufficient.

I don’t mean this as an insult, just a statement of fact: you are very ignorant about this whole thing. You don’t think people have considered bringing in and growing high beta-carotene foods before? It’s not so simple. We are talking about extremely poor people and areas here, where there is little or no infrastructure to support this as a long-term solution. However, they know how to grow rice, they eat rice, it requires them buying nothing else, it requires them setting up nothing new, it’s a great solution that fits seamlessly into the current framework, and it’s relatively cheap.

What you are suggesting requires drastic change and a lot of upfront money, and continued on-going long-term support and financial assistance. Not only that, but it requires touching so much that the change of unintended consequences is extremely high. You worry about driving farmers out of business by giving them license free access to rice. . .but you are all sticking your fingers in most everything about their food logistical chain? It’s not consistent.

EatATaco,

Pretty much all of the misconceptions you listed could have been solved by simply reading the article, or even being slightly informed about the process of approval of experimental evidence.

Judging from a place of ignorance isn’t really any better.

EatATaco,

And when people are mindlessly and unfairly judging people, we shouldn’t call them out? If I see someone being racist should I just throw up my hands and say “well people are going to people”?

And why aren’t you following your own advice and allowing me to people without being challenged?

EatATaco,

This is hilarious. You responded to me first, I only addressed you have you jumped in. You are also not “unbiased” because you didn’t read the article either and defended the assumption, accusing me of assuming too. But not only that but making false assumptions about my position and then accusing me of being on a high horse. And you’re trying to pretend youre some neutral party. Lol

Whatever, my man. You want to let ignorant judgments go unaddressed, be my guest, but I’m going to people over here and call it out like it should be.

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