OurToothbrush

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OurToothbrush, (edited )

Would you let 10 deadly snakes into your home if only 1 would bite you? How about 9?

Anyway while you’re weighing that I’m going to be somewhere else doing lesbianism as someone who is bi but refuses to deal with men’s bullshit.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

He straight up didn’t call all men rapists and dangerous, he said:

I feel like women have every right to just give up on us men

I feel like I’d give up on eating pasta if one out of every ten had a big shard of glass in it. Doesn’t take every one having a shard of glass.

OurToothbrush,

Bwahahaha

Oh that’s a good one. Let me get into why it is funny

As someone who doesn’t give a fuck about you or your individual experiences,

I say you sure are arrogant for assuming any man would be interested in you.

The lack of self awareness. Note how these two ideas can exist in his head at the same time.

I say you sure are arrogant for assuming any man would be interested in you.

I just directly said I would prefer if men weren’t. You mean this as some sort of insult but it’d be a relief if actually true!

Also, the idea that this is the best insult you can come up with, the idea of men being uninterested in me. A real poverty of imagination here.

Anyway, thanks for the chuckle.

OurToothbrush,

you’d pick 50/50 odds of literally dying.

Dude you have told people to touch grass and you think running into a black bear means you have a 50/50 chance of dying? Bwahahaha. Why yes, I’d rather startle a black bear than be alone in the woods with a guy.

Touch -and I can not emphasize this enough: Grass.

It’s just a misandrist talking point. Not rational. Purely emotional and made to create dissent and division. It’s inherently offensive to the 9/10 other, innocent men lumped in with the choice.

As we all know women have a “this dude is a rapist” detector and “this dude is an abuser” detector, where we can easily distinguish between men who are threats and men who aren’t. Rape and DV only happen when we are waiting for the detectors to get back from regular maintenance or repair.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

You clearly think about men all the time if you have enough time to defend your worthless talking point on lemmy.

Yes, do you think because I don’t sleep with or date men, men and how to interact with men has been purged from my brain? I still need to interact with male coworkers, strangers, acquaintances, friends, metamours, etc. Lmao. Are your forehead veins throbbing right now?

I say you sure are arrogant for assuming any man would be interested in you.

And yes I do hope no one would be burned by getting interested in someone as toxic as you clearly are.

Wait are you equating men with all people here? Lmao.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

Lmao it is incredibly unlikely to run into a polar bear in the mainland US. Much less likely than running into a violent man.

Funny extra, notice how you only focus on the worst men, and the best bear.

Nah we are talking averages and uncertainty that exists in a low information scenario.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

It would require putting himself in the headspace of women. And listening and empathizing with women. Completely unviable for him at this point in time, and will continue to be so long as he values protecting his own fragile masculine position over genuine human connection

OurToothbrush,

You buy the women that are used to dating them flowers and they talk about it for a month, or whatever that bit was

OurToothbrush,

And not once did you run away calling them all rapists while going to fetch a bear?

Why are you continuing to get mad at this strawman?

OurToothbrush,

Why are you continuing to get mad at another strawman?

OurToothbrush, (edited )

Having realistic fears around dealing with men does not mean I hate them.

What are you even trying to cope about? Do you identify with the subgroup of men who are dangerous or are you just upset that women aren’t mindreaders so they are cautious around men, and taking it out on women and not the dangerous men who have created the climate of fear and uncertainty?

OurToothbrush,
OurToothbrush, (edited )

I’m gay, I’m literally part of the group of men who would never be dangerous to a woman.

Oh buddy. Gay men can be real shitheads to women(I’ve literally been assaulted by a gay man as an incredibly shitty joke, also see: “I can’t be misogynistic, I’m gay!”), and also we can’t tell if someone is gay or bi.

Don’t get me wrong, you’re totally allowed to have fears. But punishing the majority for the mistakes of a minority is literally a war crime

You’re equating people being cautious around you to a punishment.

Also the permissive attitude of the majority of men is what allows a minority to abuse women.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

You’re once again equating me to the worst men you know. Simply because I defend myself from an undeserved insult for being a man. I can’t tell anyone’s orientation either, but what I know is that there is a close to 0 chance of SA from someone who’s not interested in your gender, which is the main “bear” argument.

The bear argument is about a random man lol. Why do you think it is about you personally?

And of course I’m equating being ostracized and beleaguered by women in general to a punishment, who wouldn’t?

Being cautious around someone is not the same as ostracizing someone.

I’m not interested in them romantically? No, it fucking sucks to be told along the lines of: you’re part of this group which you have no control over, and thus you deserve all the shit we say online about you, oh but don’t worry it’s not applicable to you specifically, we’d just still pick a bear over your kind, is all.

It straight up isn’t about you specifically though, except you’re the type to freak out about it so maybe it is about you. I certainly wouldn’t be willing to have this conversation with you in person, you’re acting aggrieved about women expressing their feelings. Seriously, why don’t you just scream at women to stop feeling the way they feel about men some more, I’m sure that will help things.

It’s also permissive to say I can’t complain about you all picking bear and insinuating we’re all equally as bad as the worst out there.

Permissive of what though? Because I was complaining about men creating a permissive culture around disrespecting and mistreating women.

OurToothbrush,

We’re literally having this conversation because you just can’t accept that not all men deserve to be placed in your generalisation that men = bad.

We are literally having this conversation because you’re hyperdefensive and equate women being cautious of and scared of men with them thinking men are bad.

I’m guessing you’d be scared of a bear, do you think bears are evil? Do you hate bears?

Say you pick the bear because of the bad ones out there, and not because no man is trustworthy.

Literally no one is saying that, you’re shadowboxing.

That will at least clarify that it’s an argument from emotions and not logic, since if you try to break it down statistically this stops making rational sense.

It literally is from logic that you refuse to understand.

Everything I asked, since my first comment, was to stop generalising. Why is this so offensive to you that you had to go this far?

You still don’t get that the issue is that you’re claiming it is generalization when the issue is that women aren’t fucking mindreaders and men often conceal their motives and blend in with more benign men. You have to be cautious around men because you don’t know what you’re getting.

You’re basically proving my point that you’re only listening to yourself and have no empathy for the 9/10 other innocent guys you lump together with your generalising.

Oh, no, I bet it has to be really hard being viewed with distrust because men as a whole behave badly. The problem is that that feeling doesn’t permit you to tell women that they should stop being cautious and that their fears are unreasonable.

OurToothbrush,

I thought the joke was the inherent homoeroticism of Glados

OurToothbrush, (edited )

Yeah, that and the degradation and praise elements

OurToothbrush,

The periphery. Basic term if you’ve read anything serious on capitalism and how it functions in the world.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

Countries within the capitalist system which are underdeveloped through violence and coercion in order to be able to extract a higher surplus value extraction to constant capital ratio for capitalists is the gist of it.

Please let me know if there are any terms or concepts I should break down further. (Earnest)

OurToothbrush, (edited )

According to all the Muslim delegations that went, no, lmao.

Strange how the countries that are supporting the massacre of Palestinians as we speak want us to believe they care about the supposed plight of a Muslim minority (that was exempted from the one child policy, and gets affirmative action in university and job apps, as well as public cultural funding) and the ones that are supporting Palestinians rights to armed resistance are claiming that Uyghurs are doing okay.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

Honestly it sounds like you’re just coping by suggesting this argument:

Imperialism is the main contradiction of our era. China presenting a viable alternative to US/European hegemony and helping to usher in a multipolar world is a major accomplishment that will improve global wellbeing.

Isn’t:

Rational- it is, the argument is based on an understanding of anticolonial and multipolar theory. If you’d like to learn Id suggest starting off with “wretched of the earth” and “imperialism the highest stage of capitalism” before moving on to more modern stuff

On topic- you were complaining about China doing bad shit without getting into specifics, I said “yeah, like (examples of massive accomplishments)” and then I mentioned that they were helping erode a unipolar imperialist system. I think helping to erode a unipolar imperialist system is a big accomplishment and fits into the topic.

Good faith- I don’t see how I’ve given any indication that I’m not being earnest in my beliefs.

Moving goalposts- i really don’t know how to respond to this, where do you think I initially placed them, and where do you think I moved them to?

OurToothbrush,

You need to review the definition of whataboutism.

Also, nice to see you glossed over “muslim delegations that went say there isn’t a genocide”

OurToothbrush,

I feel like reading through that just makes it feel like the USSR was more democratic back then than we are now.

OurToothbrush, (edited )

I think it came closer to democracy as an ideal than any capitalist one tbh, especially before destalinization and the entrenchment of the bureaucracy that came with it.

Also the world isn’t sliding toward fascism, that is just the US led imperial core as their power over the rest of the world slips. Plenty of places are freeing themselves right now, look to the west African confederation

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