treefrog

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treefrog,

reddit.com/…/im_governor_jared_polis_of_colorado_…

Yet, Jared Polis identifies as neo liberal. And identifies Pete Buttigieg as one too.

It’s the ‘kind face’ of colonial capitalism. In my opinion. Fascism the scary face. Both lead to corporate feudalism as far as I can tell. One faster and with less chance to use democracy to improve conditions for the poor through safety nets and unions.

But people aren’t all one thing. Biden has shown that with his relationship with unions.

treefrog,

That’s fair. I’ve always been a bit surprised that Jared Polis self identifies that way tbh.

treefrog,

Words have meaning in political discourse, and no, they’re not.

They’re neo-liberals. Both fascism and neo-liberalism are totalitarian. The former is also authoritarian. And their ways of totalizing are different.

Neo-liberalism appropriates everything that’s not itself and turns it into a commodity. This is its form of totalitarianism; colonialism and cultural appropriation for the sake of the ‘market’. I.e. theft.

Fascism extinguishes everything that’s not itself. That is its form of totalitarianism, genocide. I.e. murder.

Neither one particularly plays well with others (hence them both being totalitarian). And both are willing to steal and both are willing to murder. But the end goals of each are much different and fascism is much worse, as you know as a jewish person.

And a Trump presidency would be a fascist one. With Trans people first on the chopping block after Trump’s political enemies.

So, no. Both sides are not the same. And I’m also frustrated with the democrats. But yes, this is harm reduction. A neo-liberal or a fascist. Thieves or psychopaths. Those are the choices. Or vote third party. Or don’t vote. But in November, we know it will be Biden or Trump who gets the nomination.

I’ll vote for the thief personally. Because I practice harm reduction and live in a swing state.

treefrog,

Their goal isn’t to get people to vote Trump but push the democrats to work harder for their vote. They post in a gender queer instance.

treefrog,

An authoritarian abusive father. The state gave him custody. Mom was a mess because of his abuse and the state believed at the time that boys need to be with their father.

Dad didn’t really want us. Just wanted to win and punish mom for leaving him. Make her pay child support. Not pay alimony himself. Preferred the bar to being a father.

Been dealing with bullies since literally the crib. And the state has rarely been helpful, often harmful.

treefrog,

I guess that’s when I switch my laptop over to Linux. Which is back how it was before I switched it to Windows for school.

My PC is already Linux.

treefrog, (edited )

If I had altered a primary source this little on a term paper I would get flagged for plagiarism.

The AI copy pasted down to the amount of cheese and then changed some words slightly to hide the theft.

It came from Reddit

Biden is dramatically out of touch with voters on Gaza. He may lose because of it | Moira Donegan (www.theguardian.com)

Many voters believe, with good reason, that none of this would have happened without Biden’s assent. Biden has continued to speak of Israel’s attack on Palestinian civilians using the absurd language of “self-defense”. He has insulted Jewish Americans and the memory of the Holocaust by invoking them to justify the...

treefrog, (edited )

He’s out of touch with young/idealistic voters who don’t understand that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting your conscience.

The choice is fascism or neo liberalism. Hopefully someday we’ll have a better choice. Not voting now makes that less likely. As does Biden doubling down on zionism.

treefrog,

Both neo liberalism and fascism are totalitarian. Neo liberalism fulfills it’s totalitarian function by appropraition. Fascism by annihilation.

Both are absolutely evil. But the later will be grossly accelerated under Trump, both domestically, in Israel, and in Ukraine.

So, not voting means more dead bodies. Essentially. More dead children. In more places like Gaza.

Is your black and white commitment to evil is evil worth more dead kids?

treefrog, (edited )

It’s not propaganda. Look through the replies to my comment already someone came out with black and white thinking concerning evil (no such thing as the lesser of two).

I remember being this idealistic when I was younger. I met a lot of young minorities during 2020 who didn’t vote because they didn’t feel represented by either old white guy.

Now we have young white people feeling the same because they’re seeing the horrors of neo liberalism playing out and they don’t understand what fascism is (it’s what Israel is doing, so yeah, voting for Trump is a vote for more genocide but whatever…).

And, the DNC is going to blame voter apathy if they lose. And honestly, this could be a repeat of 2016. Democrats ignoring the will of the people and handing Trump the presidency.

treefrog,

Hey, I absolutely believe Biden is in the wrong here and that if Trump wins, it will be the fault of the Democrats for doubling down on zionism.

I’m still voting for him because I’m also voting against Trump who will absolutely be worse. Domestically Biden has been excellent. The shit with Israel I don’t support and I wouldn’t blame anyone for not voting for him.

For me it’s more of a math problem. Trump is more of what I don’t want happening. Biden is status quo which I don’t like. But those are the two choices and voting does make a difference here on if things stay this bad, or get much worse.

treefrog,

I didn’t say more dead kids in Gaza. I said more dead kids in places like Gaza.

I even mentioned Ukraine specifically.

And I’m not taking on that guilt. You do you. I’ve been telling zionists this was genocide since October and doing my small part as a very small gear in a very big machine.

I’ll also do my part to steer the ship away from Trump. Even if that means I vote by the numbers rather than by my heart.

It’s a trolley problem. Defecting doesn’t stop the trolley. But does make it more likely to end in disaster.

treefrog,

If that was my position, I wouldn’t have faulted Biden his Zionism.

But ultimately, like Bernie who I admire, I’ve learned to be a pragmatist as I’ve gotten older.

Don’t shut up. By all means, speak your mind. Biden should do better and should be pressured to do better. People need to keep protesting and drawing attention to the injustice.

And also vote. If you can’t vote for Biden, swallow your pride and vote against Trump. Because we’re not going to see any progress by defecting and giving the fascists the nukes.

treefrog, (edited )

I’m not demanding anything. But refusing to vote against Trump is exactly the sort of acceleration you mentioned. It’s cynical and nihilistic, the things you’ve just accused me of.

We should use every tool available, including voting for the least bad option if those are our only two choices.

The administration isn’t going to hear us before November. Maybe after if we keep at them.

If Trump wins, we’ll see even more jackboots on campuses. And you know this. I’m not shaming you or blaming you. But trying to convince you to vote against that even if you can’t stand Biden.

Our ideals and values are important. But we have to learn to be pragmatic (like Bernie) if our values are going to survive.

Edit: if it helps you understand where I’m coming from, I was one of the upvotes on your original post. The administration should be held accountable and if a fascist dictator wins in November I’ll blame Biden’s administration for not listening more than I’ll blame idealistic people for refusing to vote against their conscience.

Personally, I’ve done the math and am far more pragmatic the older I get. So I will vote against Trump in November.

treefrog,

If you know a third party candidate that has a chance of winning and aligns better with my valies, than sure.

Otherwise I feel like you’re just trolling.

But if you have some underground third party movement going that’s going to upset this election definitely let me know!

treefrog,

Your point about democracy already ending, if it ever began, hit the mark for me.

I’ll check out the green party candidate. Cornell is someone I used to follow a bit too and I’ll take a look at where he’s at.

treefrog, (edited )

We’ve never been a free country. They meant free from the monarchy. Free to own their own slaves, etc.

But I hear your point. Another poster pointed out that if these are the two choices, democracy is already over, if it ever was to begin with.

I might end up voting third party. But the harm reductionist in me knows Biden is not as bad as Trump. And it’s hard to vote my conscience when a vote for Biden means fewer dead bodies.

treefrog,

I do live in a swing state. So yea, it matters here.

treefrog,

Depends on how well the blind man is dressed and what color his skin is.

treefrog, (edited )

We had to ride out a number of suicidal episodes and drug overdoses over COVID. I have PTSD from childhood abuse that flared up during the lockdown and PTSD from previous encounters with the police (I was tased and arrested during a welfare check about a decade ago).

Thankfully my gf is good at holding space but it was still very stressful for both of us. And there were a number of times I would have gone to the hospital if I had any faith in the system.

treefrog,

Umbrellas. Good for rain and tear gas.

treefrog,

Also good for scuba diving and tear gas.

treefrog,

Speech to text?

Mine always catches me out on not pronouncing because fully.

treefrog, (edited )

He’s talking about skillful means, not will.

There’s a subtle difference and I 100% feel you (I have PTSD myself from childhood abuse and sometimes get accused of choosing to see the world as hostile).

SSRIs can be a skillful means. Thays opinion is that meditation with a spiritual community and limiting toxic inputs is also a skillful means.

Personally, I found the later skillful means superior for my own mental health as the former caused withdrawal and had other side effects.

But, they’re not mutually exclusive either, and I was on an SNRI when I established a practice.

Also, the body is not separate from the mind. Calming both with meditation balances hormones in both (serotonin is a hormone ). This isn’t mind over body but more similar to how exercise improves physical and mental health.

I. E. Not will, but skillful means.

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