It's definitely aligned with many of the goals of evangelical Christian Nationalism @ScifiPaul - and you're right to give a nod to Harper: he definitely didn't "go away" after he was stopped from serving another term as PM
@myeyesaredim One important aspect you are missing is that exploring gender and sexuality is not just limited to queer content. They are opposed to sex education in general. If children are taught how their bodies work and that they have rights to bodily autonomy, abusers will be reported more frequently. That's the last thing they want. I believe the extent of CSA in positions of power like police, government, church, etc is very high.
As you say children really need to receive sex education that teaches them that they have rights to bodily autonomy, and how their bodies work, so they can recognise when they are being abused.
@myeyesaredim The Supreme Court of Canada says that the right to be a parent or the right to control your child isn’t in the Charter. The courts said the right of a parent to parent their child can be found in section 7, but it’s never absolute because at the same time, a child is a human being, not property, and every human being has human rights, civil rights and charter rights. Those rights exist independent of parents. But #Postmedia#CdnMedia and the #Cons want #ParentsRights real bad.
The whole "concerned parents" thing is also a much more bigoted #dogwhistle
It invokes the hegemonic homophobic (literally phobic, fear-centred) view of the 1950s, as shown in this small example of many anti-gay films that were made then.
Maybe what you're saying could support the argument I was trying to make?
"The perceived threat of gay men activates authoritarian belief and bolsters support for strongmen leaders to restore order via 'traditional' parents rights" 🤔
It is those things, but it's also their intentional underlying wellspring. A return to a society in which queers are completely outlawed again is their specific goal.
The Tories had big success in the 80s as the Progressive Conservatives, who had moved on from any culture war stuff and just wanted the world safe for rich people. They've been retaken.
I doubt this Tory party can get the same support; at best a minority, which never does too much harm.
@jpaskaruk@myeyesaredim@CanadianCrone
Don't say, "I doubt..."
Look what happened in the US. Most rational people thought, "I doubt Trump will win...."!
Apathy allows Democracyto fail.
You're definitely correct, it's different times, but it's also gonna be an election happening 8 years after 2016; those Americans weren't just doubting Trump, they were positive about Clinton.
Trust me, I am far from positive, and I'm on sign delivery crew for my local NDP in our provincial right now.
Apathy is the issue though; I can't even get my friends to care that they're using a war criminal's platform to plan their barbecues. So convenient.
Oy vey. I dunno. I was born in red diapers and my Marxist Feminist gramma brought me up with the right interpretive framework but not quite enough critical thought about Communism.
Kinda like some people have great Christian parents who are themselves awesome but are unable to see the evil their church does and keep going to the same church forever.
Soviet Communism was my grandma's church, but Marx was her Jesus, and Marx was right about everything.
People seem to be just kind of inert, I see it in myself all the time, I try to fight it cause I'm gonna die someday and I want to accomplish more than consuming a bunch of other people's art/products, but most people seem fairly content to just cruise along in whatever mode they're in.
The analogy of Plato's Cave is worth looking up, if you can get past his "dead white man" aspect - it's an incredibly accurate metaphor depiction of the human condition.
My brother in law said EXACTLY those friggin words when he voted for Harper. It's just absurd and I still don't know how to respond to statements like that without my contempt showing.
"I wanna see something get done for once!" Not any specific thing, just "something". SMDH
Gotta say tho, we've had Rupert Murdoch doing his thing for like thirty years now, and it only got really bad when Facebook started algorithming everyone.
I'm just glad I found something physical to do. I don't think I'd be an asset on the phone, someone would bait me and I'd say something honest and NDP ELECTION WORKER UTTERS HATE SPEECH FROM PODUNK PHONE BANK or something...
I'm in the interlake so not holding out a lot of hope that she wins here or anything. Winnipeg needs to show tf up. South is a wasteland and they're pretty locked in around here.
One thing that's given me a little bit of hope is that I see a lot more Keystone Party signs than PC signs, and we are lousy with NDP signs.
If their vote is getting split by Reform Party II: Electric Boogaloo, that will be a lovely return to 90s irrelevance for the Right.
Couple that with Justin Trudeau seeming to understand what needs to happen and working with the NDP to back him up, things could improve as long as Petey keeps doubling down on the retrograde hatred. The last guy, who was trying to sell himself as a union job guy, THAT was scary, cause I believe he also understood what people actually want, but had zero intention of delivering.
Trudeau will deliver, IF he thinks he's got the political capital.
They want the "women, cattle, and slaves" measure of wealth their bible promises them; they want a complete property right over their children. They generate a farago of words about how what they want is reasonable and just and rational, but all of it's after-the-fact rationalization. The goal is women as property, chattel slavery, and absolute patriarchal authority. (Which extends to anyone with less money than they've got.)
@CanadianCrone@myeyesaredim
Postmedia continues to spread disinformation about equalization for the same reason, its destructive propaganda undermining our democracy.
@tokensane I agree that it's definitely a dog-whistle.
I think it's got more to do with "hierarchy" than "bigotry" though (unless you argue that bigotry is based on belief in a "natural order" where rich white men occupy the highest rung of the ladder?)
Having said that - and as you allude to - the "hierarchy" I see in "parents rights" is one where the State is largely or completely excluded.
The four questions above are a proxy for measurements of an #authoritarian personality, independent of political beliefs (research shows that authoritarian disposition is not rare, and cuts across party allegiance).
The key thing to understand is that authoritarianism is often latent
People do not support extreme policies and #strongman leaders just out of an affirmative desire for #authoritarianism, but rather as a response to experiencing certain kinds of threats
when non-authoritarians feel sufficiently scared, they also start to behave, politically, like authoritarians
#authoritarians feel threatened by people they identify as "outsiders" and by the possibility of changes to the status quo makeup of their communities
This would help explain why authoritarians seem so prone to reject not just one specific kind of outsider or social change, such as Muslims or same-sex couples or... migrants, but rather to reject all of them
authoritarians experience [the perceived threat to the status quo] as a threat to themselves
much more than an attack on #LGBTQ individuals and communities
an attempt to activate latent #authoritarian beliefs - along with dire warnings about say the economy - and attract voters Conservatives would otherwise not reach
a possible precursor to a more overtly strongman - Hungarian? - style of #Conservative leadership (which also fits #Poilievre's recent change of appearance)
It sounds to me like you’re missing the way both sides of the issue can express authoritarian slants, with one side demanding control over their own kids and the other side demanding control over parents/institutions.
I’d say authoritarianism is on a separate axis of the graph from the parents’ rights debate.
Nice try @volkris but there's no "both sides" to this.
Right-wing politicians, along with religious and extremist groups, are using "parents rights" in Canada to drum up support for their regressive, oppressive, and above all authoritarian agendas.
All the available evidence shows that the current approach, focused on the rights of children, in line with their legal protection under our Charter, helps prevent harm.
So it sounds to me like you just want to hurt kids. Ugh 😠
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