Good news, you do live in that place, because this is an entirely made up scenario painted by an entitled bigot in an attempt to cast herself as the victim. No one is going or has ever gone to jail for using the wrong pronouns.
oh yeah I read it. Thats what I meant. Her hypothetical has a lot more issues than her particular beliefs. So I meant it as. Why would you be worried about X when you society for some reason is putting folks in prison for speech. That would be a way bigger issue.
Im not even sure what your asking. But again who the F cares if your living in some facist state putting you in prison. See what im trying to say is the fantasy land she is talking about is worse than the subject she is talking about.
How am I in any way defending her. Because I say living in a police state would be worse. If I say having radiation sickness would be worse is it to much. Nothing is worse than the gender thing? I think I get what your asking. Not in a long time but plenty when I was young. You have to remember though that in those days it was totally common for gym teachers to refer to boys in girl terms I think because they thought it would motivate them or some shit. So not just jerk kids.
You sure do put alot of effort into defending hatemongers.
At any point here you could have shut the fuck up but you keep deciding JK needs your backing.
No. Being human qualifies me to remark on another remark another human made. My comment isn't even about trasnphobia as I have said like a million times. Its that she makes this delusional thing about being put in jail for speech which is a way worse situation. And yes that end part im making a qualification on how bad transphobia might be but I don't need some sort of degree to have an opinion on human nature. I am a human. Anyway I will take having my sex misidentified constantly over living in a non free state. What is wrong with you that you would think thats a better situation?!
So fine. I will remember that when political issues come up. Sorry im not taking any trans related issues because FfaerieOxide feels Im not qualified on the issue. So barring that I would vote for this guy and since I can't take it into account not to vote for him. Man I feel so bad for all of them going to the gulag but what can I do as im not qualified on this issue and I certainly would not want to overstep my bounds.
So, since I’m trans, am I allowed to say that instituting a law where we jail people over saying something rude seems awful to me.
Maybe it’s just because I’m an American, used to our constitutionally protected freedom of speech. But I think the ramifications for an average person misgendering someone should probably be limited to social ramifications rather than government ordained punitive ones.
Now if it’s a doctor or government employee or something there’s a discussion to be had.
You're allowed to be wrong, but at least your nose and partially your business. She isn't going to pick you, though. There is a high probability that's a snootier reply than you perhaps deserve. Not in the best place today. I don't retract it by I turn the volume down.
Not that I think anyone should be in jail for anything ever, but intentional rebuke of a trans person's gender should result in a severe assbeating and social censure.
“She isn’t going to pick you” lol as far as I’m concerned JK Rowling can die in a fucking fire. Harry Potter is ass anyway. You’re just angry that there are people out there who don’t want to see people arrested over non-crimes.
I'm more perturbed people unaffected by her fuckshit deign chime in to say her bullshit hypothetical "...would be terrible, to be fair" as if it's a thing or she and her worldview need defending. As though the people who need to speak up about how everyone's a perfect right to be a bigot are the ones unaffected by that bigotry.
You, I'm more annoyed at for encouraging them. They'll never learn to channel their Birbiglia that way.
Still, I've no quarrel with you.
This whole thing hasn't even been about what is or isn't true, but who should and should not shut the fuck up and when.
Also, to clarify. I also have no quarrel with you directly. Because I’m adult engaging in conversation online, and know how to compartmentalize and contextualize like an adult.
This whole chain started because someone mentioned they’d hate to live in a jurisdiction that arrested people for misgendering someone. I’m inclined to agree.
Whether or not you feel people are justified in holding their views has ZERO bearing here. It’s quite telling how you think you’re the arbitrator on who and who does not get a say.
And to be clear, fuck bigots and bigotry. I hate ‘em all. Hope they all die painful deaths. I just don’t want governments that don’t already have it to suddenly gain the authority to arrest based on offending people, because it doesn’t take too long before that starts getting abused by the exact type of people who fuck over people like me regularly.
If JK Rowling chooses to call someone something different than what they prefer, what’s to stop us from collectively deciding that her name is Sarah Smith, seems like she doesn’t care so why should we.
Should you get jail time for using the wrong pronouns No. Should someone be able to sue you in civil court for using the wrong pronouns in a malicious form especially in a public form.
Is there even a law requiring the proper pronoun be used for a person? Seems like you could be a dick and call everyone by the wrong pronoun and still not go to jail.
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