I will not stand for this Firefox slander! I have been using it for literal decades, and never had an issue with it that was not the fault of the website or a shitty extension. No idea why anon thinks it is unstable
It’s totally fine to use, but it’s a pretty big pain to develop for. And you basically cannot avoid it, since it’s forced on every single iOS user (third-party browsers on iOS are essentially just Safari with a custom UI due to Apple’s walled garden policies).
Safari is notorious for adopting open web standards and APIs incredibly late or not at all, leading many to believe that it’s holding back the ability for web apps to achieve more native-app like capabilities on purpose. Right now, some major APIs are not supported on iOS, even though they have been on Android browsers for a while. The ability to install web apps locally and have them send notifications finally came to iOS Safari in a pretty half-baked fashion years after it arrived on Android. And that’s just one example of many.
It also just behaves slightly differently & sometimes even explicitly off-spec compared to Chromium and Firefox engines in so many small ways that you quite often have to debug strange Safari-only bugs. It’s pretty annoying.
This makes more sense to me. The only things I’ve ever made that have to worry about multiple web browsers are basic, static HTML pages that just need CSS and maybe a tiny bit of JS. My biggest annoyance was that it didn’t have a grid view like Firefox did.
What does the web use Bluetooth for? That sounds like a nightmare regardless of whether the browser will let it or not, lol
What does the web use Bluetooth for? That sounds like a nightmare regardless of whether the browser will let it or not, lol
Nothing much at the moment, but that’s at least partially due to Apple’s lack of support 🤷
Web apps could theoretically do everything native apps can. The only thing you need are APIs implemented by browsers that “bridge the gap” between web apps running in it and the host OS.
A bunch of such APIs including access to talk to Bluetooth devices have been proposed a while ago, but are missing on Safari. Bluetooth is just one example, another is the ability to communicate with peripherals at all (e.g. USB or MIDI or Serial). Those APIs allow for example updating the firmware of a device, reconfiguring it, etc.
The availability of such APIs is just equivalency with native apps and the possible usecases are everything you’d currently need to install a native app for. Imagine for example just going to some website to change settings of your Bluetooth headphones instead of having to download the manufacturer’s app. Web Bluetooth also allows finding Bluetooth beacons, which would make for example museum audio guides with indoor navigation possible as a simple website. Etc. etc. 🤷
The only issues I’ve had with Firefox is when some websites, like Teams, doesn’t “support” it. Even though if you change the browser’s identifier (there’s an extension for that) then it works fine, they just don’t “officially support” it.
I’m also like 90% sure that “we don’t support it” is artificial, been meaning to test it.
My Firefox install at the office works fine with Teams but will refuse to load at home. I think it might be a version issue, but I’ll try to establish parity to make sure it’s not Microsoft being fucky thinking they can shaft anyone using Firefox/Linux outside of the office.
One workaround has been to spoof your Firefox user agent so Teams believes it’s Chrome, and would you believe it the feature worked. I don’t know if this trick is still relevant.
It 100% can break due to updates. I’ve had compatibility get broken out of nowhere before, it’s rare but it does happen. Typically it’s due to some config change or something with security settings that was changed. Idk. But it does happen and it can be very annoying to fix.
I say this as a loyal Firefox user ever since I got fed up with Vivaldi. I appreciate Firefox for being what I consider the only decent browser currently available but even then I’m disillusioned to it’s issues.
Firefox on mobile does have one small problem, and that is the fact that whenever I enter full screen mode, the app just exits on its own. No worries, I can just reopen it.
Glad to know I’m not crazy. I tried so many things to get it to work but it’s always force close and reopen. I don’t really use full screen too often and that’s the only issue I’ve had in the last few years.
For some reason, another problem I seem to have is that videos play at a very small frame rate until I rewind the video, but then the problem returns if I pause and play.
I don’t know if this is a problem with my phone specifically or if it’s a Firefox problem.
Yeah I don’t get what they mean by needing a refresher every few days or whatever. I’ve used it all my life and only crappy websites had me needing to switch to another browser.
I completely forgot about having to use a different browser for bad websites. It’s been a few years now, but I think something to do with the SHiFT code rewards between Borderlands 2 & 3 was the last time I had to use a different browser.
Yup, and aside from Firefox for Android, I don’t remember the last time I needed to “refresh” Firefox, and even on Android, I only need to do it like once/year.
Could you fill me in as to why Brave is only advertiaed as secure? I understand the ads/crypto thing, but if you arent opted into that and just block the ads, is there anythimg else? I also understand its a Chromium browser, but that doesnt mean google has their hooks in it (necessarily).
The intro-to-programming instructor at the school I work at loves it. But he also has a GME To The Moon sticker on his PC. Seems to be a beloved instructor
Yah I don’t know what anon is doing to his PC when no one is looking but it can’t be good. Firefox for at least 13 years here and never had an issue I didn’t cause myself.
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