ILikeBoobies,

Tried 2, kept saying dlc missing and couldn’t get multiplayer to work

Not really worth the investment even if it’s free

makyo,

Incidentally Stellaris is 70% off - I assume it’s deep into it’s development cycle by now, is it worth getting into for a recovering CK2 addict?

DragonTypeWyvern,

Depends on how much you like reading event dialogue.

The fun in Stellaris, at least for me, came from the bajillions of sci-fi references and events. The downside is that a lot of those come from DLC. The base is good by itself though, and you can always “acquire” the add-ons through other means.

makyo,

I really loved that about CK3 actually - really liked the stories it built with them. Really changed my idea of what emergent gameplay should be like. Maybe I’ll see if there’s a good bundle on sale right now too and get some of the DLCs at the same time.

TachyonTele,

How does this compare to the second one? I tried for so long to understand what to do in that game and never figured it out. “Start with Ireland” they all said, “It’s the easiest start”. And i was forever lost.

Is this one easier to navigate at all?

Havald,

No, it’s not easy to navigate.

It’s a very complicated game and it’s going to take you a few hours to understand all of the mechanics but they have very good tutorials. Be prepared to read a lot of text though. A bit of a guess but I’d say learning the basics takes around 2-3 hours if you follow the tutorials.

Once you understand how everything.works it is easy to navigate though because the UI is very good.

BenVimes,

It’s the most accessible Paradox grand strategy game I’ve played.

That still means it’s as dense as pea soup, but its nested tooltip system makes learning the game’s key terms much easier.

Shadowedcross,

For sure. Not sure which I’d say is more accessible between CK3 and Stellaris, but both are vastly more accessible than CK2 and EU4.

makyo,

I was about 150 hours into CK2 before I really felt like I started to understand it so I’m wary of jumping into this one and learning it all over again

DragonTypeWyvern,

Nah CK3 changed some things but the base gameplay is fundamentally the same. If you had a working knowledge of CBs and inheritance you’re already halfway done.

makyo,

Interesting, that is good to know. It’s been a while but maybe then it’ll come back to me pretty fast.

TachyonTele,

Those are pretty much where I hit a dead end lol

I doubt a weekend will be enough time for me to figure this one out and have fun. Oh well

Lesrid,

The UI is definitely easier to navigate. But the game is still about timing wars and angling to get heirs on thrones, and the game still does not do a great job of shouting out nearby wars.

And rulers get free navies now so Ireland is actually kind of dangerous. I recommend new players start in modern Norway

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