cro_magnon_gilf,

Is there even evidence of copper swords existing? The whole Copper Age is really just in our “history” because it has to be. The archeological evidence is pretty scant. It’s possible people used lead (even easier to melt and shape, and there is evidence of very early use of lead) more than copper before the Bronze Age.

Bashnagdul,

Kopeshes are pretty well established. Which were copper swords.

frezik,

I wonder if there’s research out there into the hottest temperature humanity can reach throughout history? So many things that advance technology depend on getting even hotter. With a simple wood fire, you can cook food to make it safer to eat and get more nutrients out of it. With a better design and fuel to get hotter, you can work copper, or glass, or steel. Hotter still and you can fuse atoms.

exocrinous,

I’d rather have a copper spear than a steel sword. Swords are small and weak. Spears are long and powerful.

Aquilae,
@Aquilae@hexbear.net avatar

I’d rather have a nuclear spear tbh

ThrowawayPermanente,

And the stone age was loooong

ThrowawaySobriquet,
Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I know this isn’t the comparison being made, but I love the idea of jumping straight from swords to nukes. Writing prompt: a 16th century blacksmith suddenly realizes, “If I surround an unstable rock with a neutron reflecting earth metal, I can trigger a runaway chain reaction that’ll get that stump outta me yard.”

Event_Horizon,
Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s probably a narrow demographic that immediately recognizes Yahoo Serious, isn’t it? Especially in the northern hemisphere.

Event_Horizon,

I’m in the Southern hemisphere so right in my neighborhood 😁

DogWater,

What the fuck is this from lol

quotable,

m.imdb.com/title/tt0096486/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Movie called Young Einstein

DogWater,

Ahh thank you!

Cethin,

I was confused for a bit while watching the video so I watched all of it until the end. I only ended up more confused as time went on. What’s even worse is there’s no indication of what it’s from.

Technus,

What always blows my mind to think about is how the materials for our advanced technology were here the whole time. We could have had computers and nuclear energy and spacecraft 20,000 years ago if we’d just had the knowledge.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

This is the real reason I follow the Primitive Technology channel. One of these days he’s going to make an arc welder out of mud and bugs.

Technus,

I follow him too. People joke about him being a short way away from computers, but I think it’s a testament to just how far we’ve come as a species. Because even with the benefit of modern knowledge on the chemistry of the process, he’s kinda still stuck on figuring out how to scale out his iron production.

It also shows just how labor-intensive everything is without modern machinery, when it takes him several days of effort, from gathering and processing the raw materials, to making charcoal, building the kiln, and finally smelting the ore just to get a handful of pellets of pig iron.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Jokes aside, you’re right. Progress is never easy, fast, or guaranteed and we truly are standing on the shoulders of many, many non-giants and there is still so much work to do. It’s humbling and awesome to contemplate.

Diplomjodler3,

The copper age only lasted about 1000 years. Then came the bronze age. But the iron has been going on for longer than the bronze age and copper age combined.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I suspect a large part of it was the collapse of civilization, at least, in that corner of the world.

breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

“we’re in a late stage bronzist society, it’ll collapse any day now!”

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

so, caught an article on NPR where they were interviewing an archeologist who specialized in the Sea Peoples (and the bronze age collapse). In any case, there were some points he made that stuck with me. The most pointed being that, the collapse during the bronze age (for those that lived in it,) wouldn’t have known it was happening.

It was slow, happened across generations. while the climate change and other factors was inexorably moving to collapse… the changes weren’t fast enough for people to notice, it was just the way things were their entire life.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Surely we are in a steel age and not an iron age

Sizzler,

End of silicon age and the start of the quantum age.

Keanu,

I believe bronze and iron weapons are equally powerful, but bronze is a mixture of copper and tin (requiring two types of input). Iron is more plentiful than tin, so militaries do not need large supplies of tin if they can manipulate iron. Steel, I believe, needs much higher temperatures and purified inputs.

Diplomjodler3,

Nope. Not at all. Steel weapons are superior to bronze in every way.

Maggoty,

The comparison was iron and bronze. Not steel and bronze.

Zorque,

Steel, I believe, needs much higher temperatures and purified inputs.

Maggoty,

And?

Zorque,

... and steel was brought up.

Maggoty,

But not in the context of a comparison with bronze. Nobody made the claim that Bronze was as strong as Steel.

essell,

Silly meme. Nuclear bombs are much too heavy to wield on the battlefield, and their shape is unsuitable for piercing platemail armour

MajorMajormajormajor,

If only I had some sort of mechanical machine that would lob this 300 kg nuclear bomb 90 m away at my enemy. One day science will catch up to man’s dreams, one day…

thebardingreen,
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

Nuke hurling trebuchets are an underexplored fantasy tech.

HenriVolney,

To be safe, make it a 90kg nuclear bomb 300m away!

lolcatnip,

Nuclear artillery shells are an actual thing, though.

K0W4LSK1,
@K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Until they make the Fat Man

puchaczyk,

They just have to make small adjustments

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/20f48383-7993-40c2-8eaa-c1015efd1b95.jpeg

Also gamma radiation is good at “piercing” platemail armour.

GreatAlbatross,
@GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

However, depleted uranium tipped arrows sound very cool.

Dagwood222,

I just posted something about ‘classified ads’ in newspapers and someone asked what classified ads are.

A 30 year old posted that he now felt old after reading that question.

Mango,

It’s where we put classified information because the kids won’t read news papers!

BakerBagel,

I had some 50 year old bartender try to be condescending with me saying i probably didn’t know how to use a dial phone. Showed her up by explaining my aunt used to have a Princess phone and had to explain that one to her

Jilanico,
@Jilanico@lemmy.world avatar

I just realized “dialing a number” comes from turning a dial.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

wtf is a pennysaver

Aqarius,

Really showing your age, there, Dagwood.

helpImTrappedOnline,

What’s a newspaper?

kakes,

And yet we still haven’t figured out nuclear swords smh.

StrongHorseWeakNeigh,

Give it about 38k years

DragonTypeWyvern,

Have hope! The swords were actually invented in 20k years!

Mango,
Transporter_Room_3,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Damn, every time I think I’m original or clever today, someone beats me to it.

I was just thinking of “demon core on a warhammer/shield/trebuchet (not a catapult because that’s for plebs)”

Small point of pedantry, that is a flail, not a mace. A mace is mounted directly onto a handle, flails have the flexible material between the weight and the handle.

Mango,

I just happened to have the exact best response possible pic saved recently enough that I could find it in my phone. 🤣 This makes my whole day!

Fixed it for you.

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