TheLepidopterists,
@TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

If everyone in the US who supported the Ansar Allah at this point was a “tankie” we’d have the 3.5% of the population needed to overthrow this fascist state.

emizeko,
@emizeko@hexbear.net avatar
betelgeuse,

“My tech evangelism job failed so now please buy my story as book, streaming show, or straight-to-streaming movie about the wacky inner workings of Hyperloop!”

comrade_pibb,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

more like diaper poop lmao gottem

flan,
@flan@hexbear.net avatar

I do not understand how you can seriously look at china and go “Nothing but terrible economic choices here smuglord

Mokey,
@Mokey@hexbear.net avatar

because you believe that everything china does is a lie or is a scam somehow even though all of that is true about your own country.

honestly just thinking about it, megachurches and fucking mlms are fucking legitimate things to do here and we’re pointing fingers at china for being sneaky and corrupt

UmbraVivi,
@UmbraVivi@hexbear.net avatar

Jordan Belfort is a glorified figure in the US, pure ideology zizek-preference

Crikeste,

Because every word out of an American’s mouth regarding China is a lie. At least, any AVERAGE American.

Why?

Because Americans are very, very, VERY stupid.

sir_this_is_a_wendys,
@sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net avatar

A couple more thoughts:

  • the way he immediately dismisses China reminds me of the ICP song ‘Miracles’ where he asks how magnets work and then says he doesn’t want a scientist to explain it
  • what poor economic choices by China? Infrastructure? His capitalism-poisoned brain cannot comprehend anything other than 0s on a computer screen.
keepcarrot,

Hasn’t China vastly improved its economic lot since the 80s?

emizeko,
@emizeko@hexbear.net avatar

and before that, too

China’s GNP grew an average of 6.2% annually over the period 1952–1978.

parpol,

China doesn’t count because you can’t trust whatever they report to be true.

An example would be their “China made” microchips for the new Huawei or their new laptops, that were supposed to be proof that China didn’t need western chips, but then the chips say “Taiwan” for some reason, and you realize they were still using western or older chips, but lying about them being manufactured in China.

When it comes to trains, we’ve all seen the horribly photoshopped gifs of the trains running on their empty rails.

alcoholicorn,

When it comes to trains, we’ve all seen the horribly photoshopped gifs of the trains running on their empty rails.

Are you suggesting that China built a massive railroad network, but is lying about having trains?

Real “Lets fake the moon landing on the moon” hours.

parpol,

Does this look real to you? Posted by a Chinese official.

youtu.be/G9VZf4ISG-o

showmustgo,
@showmustgo@hexbear.net avatar

Some of us have ridden China’s HSR lmao

parpol,

I take it you’ve ridden the maglev too, then.

Jokes aside, I’m sure the high speed rail actually exists, but I’m taking a stab at the legitimacy of the statements from any Chinese source, since they’re well known to spout lies.

emizeko,
@emizeko@hexbear.net avatar

go look for Saddam’s WMDs

jack,

So you’re just a full-blown hyper paranoid conspiracy theorist who thinks that everyone in China is just trying to dupe you into thinking they’ve built trains?

invo_rt,
@invo_rt@hexbear.net avatar

Lol, high-speed rail in the US is a joke. California’s HSR program started in 1996 and hasn’t produced anything substantial in nearly 30 years. They might be able to get 1/3 of Phase 1 into operation by 2030. It’s not even in discussion unless it’s bundled with some kind of meme shit like depressurized train tunnels and eliminating safety measures.

In China, Deng started the Chinese HSR program around the same time and went from virtually none to being the world leader in kilometers of HSR with ~45,000 Km of operational HSR. To put that into perspective, that’s double the rest of the world combined. In fact, China has more HSR in construction than the rest of the world has active HSR today.

deng-cowboy train-shining

hpca01,

There’s this thing called land ownership which is a right…the state can eminent domain them but they’d have to fight it in court.

Doubt they have that in China, if your home is in the way of a planned development…it won’t be soon. You don’t buy land from the government there, it’s on a lease basis.

That and everyone in politics has to be aligned. If the top down order is to build a HSR, no cog in the system can just slow shit down for the hell of it. Doesn’t work that way in the US, as witnessed by the myriad times that the government can never approve the budget before it’s due.

TheLepidopterists,
@TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

Oh I’ll just tell the poor Americans I know whose homes were bulldozed for transportation infrastructure that it didn’t happen because they could have fought it in court. Dumbass.

TreadOnMe,
@TreadOnMe@hexbear.net avatar

What is hilarious about your argument is that it takes far more land to build and maintain a highway, and yet we somehow never had any problems with forcing land sales with eminent domain clauses doing that.

It’s almost as if the government is owned by a series of interests that are not actually interested in investing and maintaining efficient consumption minimum and economical modes of transportation, and instead focused on making a system that is efficient at creating profit for it’s ownership class. It’s almost as if, instead of a focus on the money to commodity cycle, there is a perverse incentive for a money to commodity to money cycle that means there is no real incentive to ever substantially invest to improve your commodity production.

Weird. curious-marx

hpca01,

How many new highways do you see being built?? I’ve lived in California all my life and I’ve never seen a brand new highway being built. I’ve seen lanes expanded a few feet…But never a new one built.

Also, you can’t just put rail tracks anywhere as you can with land.

The politicians clearly work for reelection. Unfortunately, when a human being is placed in a position of power you usually get this kind of thing. Power corrupts.

TreadOnMe,
@TreadOnMe@hexbear.net avatar

The highways weren’t just magically placed there by the grace of God, they were built and expanded by the government using eminent domain. A highspeed rail system could be built using the same legal precedents, and would likely keep the highways from having to be expanded (ever).

What you are saying is that we could never build a new system in the same way that we built the old system, which is patently false, which is still different from your claim that China can avoid red-tape when the U.S. does not which is also false. The U.S. picks and chooses when it decides to uphold ‘private property’ because it only cares about the private property of those that buy the political system, it demonstrably does not care about general private property rights of those that inconvenience whatever the agenda is. Which means that the agenda COULD be High Speed rail, and it is not ‘the law’ or ‘the government’ getting in the way but private companies.

Also, for someone with a tenuous grasp on legal reality, I don’t think you should be discussing the realities of rail-based civil engineering. Highways aren’t particularly known for being good to work with on complex landscapes.

I am saying that the literal incentives of a profit-driven capitalist economy will always inevitably degrade the commodity process, incentivizing profit generation and rent seeking over industrialization and economizing commodity processes. It has nothing to do with ‘corruption’, ‘power’ or ‘politicians’, nor did I ever indicate that is what we were talking about. It is the system working as intended.

quarrk,
@quarrk@hexbear.net avatar

No, China doesn’t count because that would challenge my worldview. I know I’m right, I just haven’t figured out how yet.

IzyaKatzmann,

huh that’s quite an elegant way to put it

Egon,
@Egon@hexbear.net avatar

I hate the attitude that professor exhibits. “Well we might’ve wasted years of work, billions of dollars, millions of man-hours, burned up large stockpiles of limited resources, arrested development of national infrastructure doing something we knew was impossible and in this process we’ve created absolutely nothing worthwhile, but at least I learned a lot! Gotta look on the bright side!”

moujikman,

He was a physics phd with a focus in gravitational waves, never a professor. His phd thesis has 0 citations.

RustCat,

You’re right, but I feel like even without the hyperloop, the government (or other rich fucks) would find some way to avoid building a train line. Trying and failing to build a hyperloop was just a convenient excuse.

Egon,
@Egon@hexbear.net avatar

Oh yeah for sure, but that’s because they’re rich dickheads. This guy is just an idiot engineer with his head up his ass going so-true for “knawledge”
He’s not into this because of geopolitics, he’s just a useful idiot

quarrk,
@quarrk@hexbear.net avatar

If China did the same thing with state resources this dude would have a half chub for the rest of his life

Egon,
@Egon@hexbear.net avatar

I doubt it, he’d probably find some reason why it was bad us-foreign-policy

quarrk,
@quarrk@hexbear.net avatar

I meant the wasting billions of dollars for nothing part

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