Redditors struggle to convince an Arab to vote for Genocide Joe, give up and delete the post

The mods of Reddit deleted the post but I have a cached version. Here’s the original post

CMV: As an Arab, Im not voting for biden anymore.

I am a long term lurker, but I wanted to share my thought about all the hype suourding ‘a no-vote for Biden means a vote for Trump’. The reason I won’t be voting for Joe Biden is his blind and ultimate loyalty to Israel. I understand this is highly sensitive and controversial. I am an average Arab American with no expertise in politics, military, media, writing, or technology. Forgive me if I say something dumb. I am not alone in my decision to not vote for Joe Biden, so many Muslims, Arabs, and young people have started to call him Genocide Joe. This is not a simple issue, and I am not a single-issue voter, but I cannot ignore the atrocities committed by the Israeli government that are ignored by Biden, his administration, and other dems in Gaza. I have nothing against Jews and Israel, and I respect their right to exist and coexist peacefully. However, I strongly condemn the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, which Biden supports financially and militarily.

One of the main reasons I am not voting for Biden is his hypocrisy and double standards on human rights. He was rightfully quick to condemn Russia for its aggression in Ukraine. However, he turned a blind eye to the much worse and documented violence against civilians, journalists, health workers, UN workers, and religious minorities in Gaza. He ignored the use of white phosphorus, a banned chemical weapon, and the bombing of schools, UN shelters, hospitals, mosques, churches, and safe passages. He also ignored the worldwide and domestic calls for a ceasefire, and vetoed the UN Security Council resolution that demanded an end to the hostilities and additionally repeatedly affirmed himself as a zionist. Not only that, but he even gave the green light to Israel to continue the destruction of life and property in Gaza, by approving and sending many more and weapons and ammunition.

Another reason I am not voting for Biden is his indifference and complicity in the increased settlers’ violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. Innocent Palestinians are being literally murdered, evicted, and harassed by extremist settlers, who are backed by the Israeli army and government. Biden has done nothing to stop or prevent these crimes, or to hold the perpetrators accountable. He has also failed to support the legitimate rights and aspirations of the Palestinian people, such as self-determination, statehood, and sovereignty. He has sided with Israel on every major issue.

Biden lacks moral courage and political will to stand for justice and peace. They need to do something, but they are afraid of the powerful pro-Israel lobby and the electoral consequences. They value their own power and interests more than the lives and dignity of millions of oppressed and suffering people. Likewise, they are willing to sacrifice the principles and values that they claim to uphold and defend, such as democracy, human rights, and international law. They are also betraying the trust and support of millions of Americans, especially Muslims, Arabs, young people and even thousands of American Jews, who voted for them in the hope of change and progress and live in battle ground states.

In conclusion, I voted for him in 2020, but have decided not to vote for Joe Biden, because I cannot support a candidate who is complicit in the genocide of Palestinians, who is hypocritical and indifferent to their plight, and who is cowardly and selfish in his policies. I am not alone in this decision, and I am not voting for Trump or the Republicans either. And yes, Trump and the republicans are a lot worse for the Palestinians, but at least they are honest and open about it. In comparison, Dems are wolf in sheep’s clothing. I hope that Biden and the Democrats lose the election and learn from their mistakes. I hope that they will realize that they cannot ignore or alienate their constituents, especially the minorities and young people, who have legitimate grievances and demands.

Edit: I under that the republicans and trump are worse. But realistically for palestinians, they are the same. How is Biden legitimately different from trump? He is sending more arms and missiles that will be dropped on palestinian children. He is also trying to send navy to Yemen since they are stopping ships from getting into israel until food and medicine can enter. Biden is willing to essentially go to war on Israelis behalf.

MayoPete,
@MayoPete@hexbear.net avatar

Young people often lack the emotional maturity, experience, and appreciation for nuance and complexity that allows more mature people to see the value in choosing the lesser of evils. Young people are attracted to the idea of acting on principles. It makes them feel good.

FUCK these people and FUCK all these shitty brainwashed Dems. Soulless freaks the lot of em

aaaaaaadjsf,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Young people often lack the emotional maturity, experience, and appreciation for nuance and complexity that allows more mature people to see the value in choosing the lesser of evils. Young people are attracted to the idea of acting on principles. It makes them feel good

trollface This is true, it’s why young westerners are pro Ukrainetrollface

spoilerObviously I’m not being serious, just flipping their logic back on themselves

Frank,
@Frank@hexbear.net avatar

Nuance! Complexity! The reasons why Joe has been baying for Palestinian blood for decades are nuanced. The reasons why we have to support the extermination of an entire people and there are no alternatives are complicated! You just need to be mature enough to see that exterminating 2 million people and bulldozing their graves is the lesser evil!

What do you even do with people like this?

Praksis2nd,

liberals fucking love to infantilize people and it seems to not interest them that makes you pretty fucking hated, especially if your grievances are entirely valid!

GnastyGnuts,

That comment embodies the essence of modern liberalism:

  • condescendingly gesturing at “nuance” and “complexity” to hand-wave any criticism (“you just don’t get it!”)
  • infantilizing the critic by suggesting that having empty principles that you don’t act on is a sign of maturity rather than weakness and moral inferiority
  • pretending that their betters are actually just doing things to feel good about themselves, which is also an example of projection since liberals goddamn love performative useless bullshit that makes them feel like they’ve done something
Dessa,
@Dessa@hexbear.net avatar

What the an a person act on if not principles? Principles are defined by action.

the_itsb,
@the_itsb@hexbear.net avatar

I solemnly swear to never grow out of my principles.

Crowtee_Robot,
@Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net avatar

Voting is public transportation. You’re getting on the bus that goes as close to your destinations as possible. That’s it.

LMAO. When you’re so wedded to the status quo that you can’t even imagine public transportation being something other than a grudging necessity.

Hexbear2,

So I just posted a post about Biden’s attempts to censor the internet via the “combating misinformation and disinformation” initiative, for which the Biden admin has been sued, and the mods removed it. Go figure. That place is so propagandized, the userbase never had a chance.

Katra5Lives,

Liberals must reluctantly support gaza because “it’d look bad otherwise”, but if they were in israel they would be marching with the settler lynch mobs

footfaults,
@footfaults@hexbear.net avatar

I don’t think liberals in the US support Gaza at all. I think they’re acting just like they would if they were in Israel.

They had that huge rally for supporting Israel, don’t forget. Fetterman was there wearing an Israeli flag as a cape.

Facebones,

Fetterman just came out and outright said he is “no longer progressive,” not that anyone ever believed he was in the first place.

Hexbear2,

As a leftist, after reviewing decades of Biden’s career, vs Trump’s, I genuinely believed Trump was less bad than Biden. Not that I voted for either of them, rather, just that Biden is in fact that bad. He’s everything that your boomer uncle believed about Jimmy Carter to be true.

Evilphd666,
@Evilphd666@hexbear.net avatar

And they’re trying to shame people into believing the rape thing. Evidence “trust us bro” and “Hamas POW confessed to raping a corpse”.

Every damn war we accuse the opposite team, almost immediately of “using viagra to rape” or some form of it. Every time.

Yet all the testimony from released hostages - Hamas would take car of us and our women needs. They reapected us as women. We ate the same food. They wouldn’t touch us.

And then we have the rampid sexual violence in Israeli prisons.

‘It would’ve been better if they shot us’: Palestinians recount prison abuse

Released Palestinians allege abuse in Israeli jails

2002 - Israel: Inhuman and degrading treatment including sexual harassment of Palestinian women and girls detained in Neve Tertze women’s prison, Ramle

windowlicker,
@windowlicker@hexbear.net avatar

Biden supports a two state solution, Trump supports a one state solution. If you want peace between Palestine and Israel you would vote Biden. If you want war, feel free not to.

smuglord “biden is doing genocide, but have you considered trump will do genocide too? so naturally, to stop genocide, we must vote for biden”

very_poggers_gay,

I love the “Biden is just doing what America has always done” defense

Like these people type it out and hit enter but never actually think about how bad of a defense it is for Biden or America, lmao

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Even on large Lemmy instances you get downvoted for suggesting to vote for a 3rd party. The US “democracy” is a joke

zed_proclaimer,
@zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net avatar

I am not alone in my decision to not vote for Joe Biden, so many Muslims, Arabs, and young people have started to call him Genocide Joe

@mkultrawide

you have started a movement

RedQuestionAsker2,
@RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net avatar

This person is actually going easy on Joe. Such restraint. And it still made people freak

GrouchyGrouse,

If Trump is so dire and Americans elect him because some Americans had the temerity to stand against genocide the USA deserves another round of Trump. If some rich awful piece of wannabe mafioso shit like Trump can boondoggle institutions and get elected despite his litany of sins the USA deserves fucking Trump. If this wretched diseased ship of empire can’t find a better port in a fascist storm well I can’t give another explanation except we fucking had it coming.

jackmarxist,
@jackmarxist@hexbear.net avatar

Trump legit has a chance now because Biden can’t stop himself from supporting genocide. And Dems immediately tried to block him from running. This is like provoking the Republic Victim Complex by smashing the hive on your head.

mrnotoriousman,

You're aware Republicans filed the suit to get him off the ballot in CO, right?

GenderIsOpSec,
@GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net avatar

So you care more about honesty then limiting “genocide”?

and here we see the normal redditor in their natural habitat. LIMITING GENOCIDE??? What FUCKING genocide is Genocide Joe limiting, exactly?!! Also those fucking quotation marks qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

“buh buh trump would be worse”

yeah ok, maybe get a candidate that doesnt want to support genocide then, i though 'murica was the greatest democracy or whatever

Evilsandwichman,

I wonder how long those libs were waiting for the opportunity to scold an Arab American they knew wouldn’t vote for Biden because of this.

footfaults,
@footfaults@hexbear.net avatar

They got angry and removed the post because “it broke the rules”

Ram_The_Manparts,
@Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net avatar

Reddit really is the worst site on the internet

Even the comments on Pierce fucking Morgan’s youtube channel are better than this shit

Frogmanfromlake,
@Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net avatar

Because Youtube actually has a diverse userbase unlike Reddit and its white techbro majority

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