wandermind,

I’m half convinced Putin wants NATO to get directly involved so that he can pull out of Ukraine and be like “We didn’t lose to Ukraine, it was the West who once again oppresses poor little Russia”

logi,

If that’s what he really wants, then I’m sure it could be arranged and nobody needs to get nuked. But it probably isn’t.

wandermind,

I’m not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin’s anti-West narrative.

Also why would anybody get nuked lol

logi,

I’m not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin’s anti-West narrative.

They might give Putin that in return for his retreat from Ukraine. That would be the “arrangement”. But again, I don’t really believe it.

Also why would anybody get nuked lol

That’s what Putin keeps threatening if NATO gets involved.

gigachad,

If that’s what is necessary let’s go

echodot,

Russia has claimed it’s going to attack a NATO country since before the Ukrainian war started. They like to say it every now and then, just to remind us that they exist and North Eastern Europe is not just an unpopulated wasteland.

Opisek,

That’s a BS headline made to scare people. The article boils down to “Russia theoretically has the capabilities to attack, but don’t because they know the West will be angry”.

Bookmeat,

He’s waiting until November.

jonne,

Even if the US sat on the sidelines, the European parts of NATO would still be formidable.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Even if the US sat on the sidelines, the European parts of NATO would still be formidable.

You mean the parts of Europe that has been taken hostage by Orban?

el_abuelo,

And likely the US would eventually intervene once both sides had slugged it out for a while, ensuring they have a seriously compromised enemy and seriously dependent allies…and enrich themselves in the process.

psycho_driver,

It’s almost as if something like this has happened before . . .

wildcardology,

He’s not winning on 1 front, now he wants to add another?

Anticorp,

Russia can’t even succeed against Ukraine. What makes him think he has a chance in hell against the combined power of NATO? Hell, man, I’m pretty sure the USA alone would make quick work of Russia in an all out war.

maculata,

I kinda doubt even he thinks that’s a good idea. Unless he’s truly delusional.

NocturnalEngineer,

That suggests his recent actions haven’t been delusional?

bradorsomething,

This sounds like possible intelligence, based on the hawkish tone of france lately; europe has its best interests in going full article 5 if this happens.

Unfortunately it would never happen before jan 7 and a tragic election.

PrinceWith999Enemies,

Jarosław Stróżyk said Putin is in a position where he could begin planning a small-scale invasion but is holding back due to the West’s response to the attack in Ukraine.

“Putin is certainly already prepared for some mini-operation against one of the Baltic countries, for example, to enter the famous Narva [municipality in Estonia] or to land on one of the Swedish islands,” Mr Stróżyk told Polish paper Dziennik Gazeta Prawna.

Tl;dr - We think that Putin has the capability to mount a small scale invasion, but isn’t doing it because of NATO’s potential response. But if we assume he really wants to, then he will.

FiniteBanjo,

I’ve been saying this for a long while, but Russia’s every move seems to indicate desperation.

Aurenkin,

Given the success of the 3 day invasion I’m sure NATO is terrified.

IceFoxX,

Measured against the damage caused so far and the destabilized global situation, such statements are naive. During the Ukraine war, Russia and its allies have already proven several times what a laughing stock NATO is.

Aurenkin,

Funny how they can do that without NATO being involved at all beyond some member states providing weapons and training. The biggest damage NATO has suffered so far is from second hand embarrassment.

IceFoxX,

Damn here are just far right people and Putin cock suckers. Yes just ignore the rise of far right… Your choice. Clown

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

Those far right ones? 🤡

Aurenkin,

Jesse … What the fuck are you talking about…

BatrickPateman,

He says in defence of the country which formerly proclaimed to have the second best army in the world, but also

  • struggles to complete its three day adventure in Ukraine for more than two years now,
  • has to hide its navy,
  • lost most of its active aviation, tanks and APCs, and
  • (my personal favourite) has to resort sending troops into battle in Chinese golf carts as transport options seem to run.

But the West is a laughing stock.

Dang. Can I get some of the shit you are on?

VonReposti,

has to hide its navy

From an enemy without any naval forces

MisterMoo,

Yeah, they’ve proved that to everyone who has succumbed to constant Russian propaganda.

IceFoxX,

Ah the Russian propaganda from NATO and the west itself your talking about. We ignore the rise of right-wing parties within Europe etc… After all, it’s all Russian propaganda… Just like the intrusion of drones and missiles… all just propaganda Clowns :)

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

We ignore the rise of right-wing parties within Europe etc…

You mean the right-wing puppets of the Russians? Supported to destabilize the west? Those ones?

Comrade I don’t know what game you are playing but your russian propaganda won’t bring you far here…

whostosay,

Got a source for this?

sp3tr4l,

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/fc91962c-8818-4600-9f0e-3b30f6abbc69.webp

Im sure the Poles and the Fins would absolutely love it if he tried.

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