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GrapheneOS

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Open source privacy and security focused mobile OS with Android app compatibility.

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Yesterday, we made a post linking to the leader of Privacy Guides (Jonah Aragon) repeatedly pushing the false claim GrapheneOS is marketing itself as making people untouchable by law enforcement and trying to appeal to criminals. It's a thoroughly dishonest attempt to harm us.

GrapheneOS,
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Jonah Aragon followed up by pushing a fabricated story claiming we joined a private Discord server used by law enforcement to antagonize them.

The reality is we joined the public Digital Forensics and Incident Response server to participate in discussion about GrapheneOS there.

GrapheneOS,
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GrapheneOS had been repeatedly mentioned in their channel on mobile devices forensics. We posted a link to https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/11860-vulnerabilities-exploited-in-the-wild-fixed-based-on-grapheneos-reports which is on-topic for the channel, useful and relates to past discussions. We also provided some corrections for past discussions about GrapheneOS.

GrapheneOS,
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A mod banned us from the server with the justification that we were making forensics harder and claimed the server exists to help law enforcement and forensic data extraction. The chat history is still there for anyone who wants to proof Jonah Aragon is once again lying about us.

GrapheneOS,
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We've removed our previous thread only because Jonah edited the linked comment to direct harassment towards a specific GrapheneOS project member he has a long history of targeting with fabricated stories as part of bullying. That's why we've posted a new thread as a replacement.

GrapheneOS,
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Multiple members of the Privacy Guides project quit due to Jonah's corruption and extensive involvement in attacks on the GrapheneOS project. For some context, Jonah is one of the core Techlore project members and has been heavily involved in their harassment for multiple years.

GrapheneOS,
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Jonah Aragon and Henry Fisher are directly responsible for the 3 swatting attacks by one of their supporters aimed at killing a GrapheneOS project member. Despite that, they're both still trying to direct harassment towards them and further escalating their fabrications/bullying.

incognitoMD, to random

@GrapheneOS But as far as I can see PG does recommend GrapheneOS...
So, what's the catch? What am I not seeing?

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/#mobile

They even wrote a blog post about how GrapheneOS is better: https://blog.privacyguides.org/2022/04/21/grapheneos-or-calyxos

And I quote from PG: "GrapheneOS is the best choice when it comes to privacy and security."
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/android/#grapheneos

Then how are you claiming that they don't support GrapheneOS? 🤔

GrapheneOS,
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@incognitoMD That content was all made by people who have left the Privacy Guides project due to Jonah's toxicity. Jonah has been working towards promoting scams instead and removing this content. The people willing to oppose him have all left the project already. Our whole point is that the project has been hijacked by a toxic person that's trying to harm GrapheneOS and is not what it used to be. That content is from 2022.

GrapheneOS, to random
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Latest release of GrapheneOS finally shipped the long awaited duress PIN/password implementation. If you have a spare device, we recommend trying it out.

We've added initial documentation to the features page:

https://grapheneos.org/features#duress

It near instantly wipes and shuts down.

GrapheneOS,
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We've also finally added documentation on our USB-C port control to our features page:

https://grapheneos.org/features#usb-c-port-control

Most users can set this to "Charging-only when locked" without a loss of functionality or even "Charging-only" if you don't use USB accessories, DisplayPort or MTP.

GrapheneOS,
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Default is "Charging-only when locked, except before first unlock" to avoid locking users out of devices with a broken touchscreen. The main threat model for this is defending the device until the auto-reboot timer started when the screen is locked gets user data back at rest.

GrapheneOS,
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Our 2-factor fingerprint unlock feature for adding a PIN to fingerprint unlock will be ready to ship in the near future. It will allow users to set a strong passphrase as their primary unlock method to avoid relying on secure element throttling. Has been planned since 2015/2016!

GrapheneOS,
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Our upcoming 2-factor fingerprint unlock will make using a strong passphrase as primary unlock method practical via fingerprint+PIN secondary unlock instead of fingerprint-only. Great for people who want to avoid relying on secure element throttling but don't want fp-only unlock.

GrapheneOS,
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@sleepybisexual Yes, that's what we're referring to above: adding a PIN to fingerprint, to have the combination of both for secondary unlock. This makes sense alongside a strong passphrase for primary unlock. If you're going to use a PIN for primary unlock, you don't really have much use for fingerprint unlock and can simply avoid it.

GrapheneOS,
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@sleepybisexual You'll be able to use something like 8 digit PIN primary unlock with fingerprint + 4 digit PIN secondary unlock if you want, but the device can always be unlocked with the primary unlock method. We're not going to add support for using biometric unlock as part of primary unlock. It would risk people getting locked out of devices and isn't how it's meant to be used. The standard integration of biometric unlock is as secondary unlock only which is sensible beyond security reasons.

GrapheneOS,
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@sleepybisexual Your fingerprints change over time and also may not work if your finger is wet, dirty, injured, etc. Fingerprint unlock is probabilistic and has a chance of not working anymore. It isn't really suitable for primary unlock even if you ignore security completely.

GrapheneOS,
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@sleepybisexual Your fingerprints change over time and also may not work if your finger is wet, dirty, injured, etc. Fingerprint unlock is probabilistic and has a chance of not working anymore. It isn't really suitable for primary unlock even if you ignore security completely. The reason fingerprint unlock continues working long term is because each use of the fingerprint scanner updates the fuzzy hash model for that fingerprint so it adapts to gradual changes in your fingerprint.

gmilio, to random

@GrapheneOS not what I get from that message, and why do the views of these people matter to grapheneos?

GrapheneOS,
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@gmilio Jonah does not support GrapheneOS and is heavily involved in harassment targeting our project members. They've openly welcomed people spreading Kiwi Farms propaganda targeting GrapheneOS in they're chat rooms. This is an attempt at reaching incredibly far to try to portray posting about defending against forensic data extraction as somehow being irresponsible or wrong because supposedly only law enforcement uses the tools which is not true and would not mean it's benevolent.

GrapheneOS,
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@Proxy @gmilio Jonah does not support GrapheneOS and is heavily involved in harassment targeting our project members. They've openly welcomed people spreading Kiwi Farms propaganda targeting GrapheneOS in they're chat rooms. This is an attempt at reaching incredibly far to try to portray posting about defending against forensic data extraction as somehow being irresponsible or wrong because supposedly only law enforcement uses the tools which is not true and would not mean it's benevolent.

GrapheneOS,
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@Proxy @gmilio Jonah is one of the core team members of Techlore, which has been heavily involved in targeting GrapheneOS with both technical misinformation and harassment based on fabricated stories about our team members for several years. Jonah is always looking for a way to attack GrapheneOS and contribute to his narrative that the founder of the project is insane. It's simply Jonah's character and he's committed to doing this. We can share logs showing PG welcoming Kiwi Farms harassment.

GrapheneOS,
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@Proxy @gmilio Jonah is one of the core team members of Techlore, which has been heavily involved in targeting GrapheneOS with both technical misinformation and harassment based on fabricated stories about our team members for several years. Jonah is always looking for a way to attack GrapheneOS and contribute to his narrative that the founder of the project is insane. It's simply Jonah's character and he's committed to doing this. We can share logs showing PG welcoming Kiwi Farms harassment.

GrapheneOS, to random
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GrapheneOS has been working towards providing accessibility for blind users so we include our own build of TalkBack. We plan to include a text-to-speech (TTS) app and Setup Wizard integration to make it usable out-of-the-box. We can't do much to make installing more accessible.

GrapheneOS,
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Unfortunately, some banks are trying to make life harder for blind people and others reliant on accessibility services. A few have started banning using their app if a non-Google accessibility service app is installed, even if it's not activated (TalkBack is off by default).

GrapheneOS,
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Our users have determined that this is easy to work around by disabling the app rather than the accessibility service not being activated. It's possible for those apps to see that it's not activated and they can see it's a first party OS component so it makes very little sense.

GrapheneOS,
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We've been working on an App Communication Scopes feature for disallowing apps from seeing or communicating with apps in the same profile with toggles to allow specific cases. We have some of the infrastructure in the OS already for specific cases and can start using it for this.

GrapheneOS,
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So far, only EU banks appear to be doing this which is convenient since we already have contact with the EU Commission with a focus on the anti-competitive Play Integrity API many banks have adopted. They're not going to be impressed by banks banning open source screen readers...

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