iAvicenna,

Next introduces a bill to ban women from politics

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  • PrimeMinisterKeyes,

    Amazing how someone can utter a 100% fascist idea like this in public and not immediately get egged.

    HawlSera,

    Every Republican Accusation is a confession.

    BonesOfTheMoon,

    I worked for a gyne who did abortions and got the pathology reports. Every one said the same thing “the specimen contained spongy pieces of hemorrhagic tissue”. It’s so microscopic and it’s absolutely not like what anti choice assholes claim it is. It is so insignificant.

    Have the abortion. Don’t hesitate. Get on with your life. It’s what matters, not a piece of tissue. It’s your choice and nobody else’s. You deserve to be happy and safe and not forced to go through hell.

    FWIW I’m Christian and still incredibly pro choice. Don’t believe any of their propaganda. They lie.

    zloubida,
    @zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

    An other Christian pro-choice here. God wants us free, Jesus came to stop people who used God’s name to control peoples’ lives.

    ZombiFrancis,

    My sister in law is an obgyn in Tennessee. She often remarks the socio-econokic conditions of her patients as the worst she has ever seen, and she spent years as an aid worker in Kabul.

    BonesOfTheMoon,

    I’ve driven through Tennessee and seen billboards from CPS that say “Don’t cook, you’ll lose your kids” (by cook they mean meth). Like they have to come out and say it that plainly, it’s such a problem.

    moon,

    Yeet it and delete it

    BonesOfTheMoon,

    Who is this c-u-next Tuesday? I will chant spells against her.

    Hackworth,

    Mekka-lekka-hi, Mekka-hiney-ho

    Baphomet_The_Blasphemer,

    Well, you see, the logic here is simple; gun ownership is a constitutionally protected right, and women don’t have rights.

    phoenixz,

    And the irony is that this is coming from a woman

    Phegan,

    She their useful idiot. Find someone willing to sell out their entire group for clout. She is young enough that if republicans gain full power she will still be around when they start to talk about how women shouldn’t hold office.

    100_kg_90_de_belin,

    That’s what you get when a bunch of white slave-owning men write the constitution

    dunidane,

    I hate that you are right. I wish that we could say that the existence of the 9th counts just as much for the right to bodily autonomy but that’s not what these shit heads will agree to.

    uis, (edited )

    Maybe she is jealous because noone wants to impregnate her?

    MrMeanJavaBean,

    I wonder what’s next, conceal carry permits for pregnant women to go out in public?

    Honytawk,

    Now the question remains.

    Would they be in favour or against using guns to perform an abortion?

    JoeBigelow,
    @JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca avatar

    The Governor of South Dakota has entered the chat

    uis,

    Кoптexт?

    VARXBLE,

    Late term puppy abortion with a gun

    abigscaryhobo,

    Wait yeah, if a doc is using guns to provide abortions do you take away his guns or let him keep giving abortions?

    The abortions are in self defense of course.

    cristo,

    By their logic, abortion is murder, any doctor who performs an abortion is ineligible to own guns because they would be a violent felon. I just dont understand why these people gotta be so brain dead

    NotMyOldRedditName,

    The gun shoots a intense spray of abortion medication.

    Checkmate!

    baggachipz,

    I think they’d want to arm the zygote

    Aceticon, (edited )

    Well, every birth inevitably leads to a death, whilst guns might but they’re not guaranteed to.

    So obviously, you need to keep track of the most deadly kind of people, pregnant women, more so than a not quite as deadly kind like gun owners.

    True, the case can be made than a single gun can result in multiple deaths whilst a birth will only ever result in a single death, but none the less the statistics don’t lie and they show that a lot more deaths can be traced back to a birth than they can to gun ownership.

    Potatos_are_not_friends,

    I once watched a woman walk into a supermarket just openly being pregnant. Fortunately she behaved, because some of the other folks were concealed pregnant.

    hedidwot,

    A single birth can result in multiple deaths in the situation of murderer being born, so you might actually be right.

    PineRune,

    Hitler was born, if I remember correctly.

    Aceticon, (edited )

    Yeah, but without all those other births those deaths would not have happenned, so ultimatelly it’s all the fault of pregnant women.

    Being born is always a death sentence!!!

    NotMyOldRedditName,

    Someone birthed Putin

    paholg,

    Many people who are born go on to have children of their own. So a single pregnancy can lead to generations and generations of deaths!

    TheLowestStone,
    @TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

    I read a study recently saying that 100% of murderers were born. So that’s another vector for births leading to multiple deaths.

    maniii,

    A Database that stores a List of Armed and Dangerous Pregnant women. All Pregnant women are given high-power Full-Auto weapon-of-choice and a License to Stand-their-Ground. Also another Database of Not Pregnant persons and who are also Armed and Dangerous but they can go buy their own weapons.

    That way it is fair and equal to everybody and no one has to feel left out :-D

    Itdidnttrickledown,

    You can’t expect decency from trash. Trash like this will always ignore how trashy they are. If there were a way to compel them to tell the truth I bet there isn’t a single real maga in the country who really believes in their god.

    MalachaiConstant,

    I’m not sure about that. In my experience, it’s how they justify everything. The ones I’ve known personally seem to genuinely believe their god wants them to inflict pain on others as part of some sort of divine warfare. They also tend to prefer the old testament, unsurprisingly

    electric_nan,

    Let’s definitely not have either of those things.

    UnderpantsWeevil, (edited )
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    What if we just had universal health care, rather than a massive suveillancr state

    GladiusB,
    @GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

    Nah. I’m ok with the gun database. We have one for cars. Firearms should be there too.

    todd_bonzalez,

    Yes, but let’s do the gun one also.

    electric_nan,

    No thanks. My state already has a list and I’m pretty sure the feds do too, but let’s not make it any easier on them in the event that we find ourselves in the “armed resistance” phase of fascism.

    xkforce,

    Just once Id like to meet a gun advocate that didn’t day dream about hypothetical scenarios where they get to use them.

    Baphomet_The_Blasphemer,

    Howdy! I only daydream of scenarios where I no longer need to own them to feel safe from the rising fascism.

    somethingsnappy,

    We use them all the time to hunt for food. However, the weirdos that think they can rise up against the state are something else.

    electric_nan,

    What if it isn’t the state so much as fascist militias that worry me the most? Is it ok to want weapons to defend myself and my friends from them?

    somethingsnappy,

    Sure. Just make sure it’s as tightly regulated as say, cars.

    electric_nan,

    Imagine a future, maybe January of 2025 and we start seeing laws classifying trans (or gay) people as mentally ill. Gun confiscations affecting only “undesirables”. People that actually really need those weapons for self defense. People that are harassed by ever emboldened fascist gangs. People the police treat dismissively at best.

    I don’t love guns, or even have them for their own sake, or because of some dusty parchment written by hypocrites. I would love to live in a world where nobody has guns, but holy shit do we not live in such a world right now. I would urge you to reconsider your political priorities before you go harming (only) the people you probably want to help.

    somethingsnappy,

    As a progressive in favor of responsible gun ownership, I stand by my point. Guns are fine. Regulation is good. The gangs you are worried about aren’t going to be able to look up your registration. I’m from one of the most gun tootinest states.

    electric_nan,

    Those gangs often have some membership overlap with local law enforcement, or at the very least, common ideological aims. I can easily imagine a scenario where a lefty trans journalist carries a pistol for good cause. This journalist is a target for local hate groups, who are buddies with local cops. Those cops could use a law like the one I mentioned to disarm this person, leaving them defenseless, and perhaps even informing the hate group of the change in status.

    This is a hypothetical scenario, but one I don’t see as far-fetched. I would have to say that in general however, I would still be against such a national registry even under less threatening circumstances. For one, I’m unsure how effective it would be in relation to the types of gun crime we see. For another, I just generally prefer that data (especially sensitive data) not be collected in bulk. Maybe a compromise and treat it like HIPAA data?

    electric_nan,

    It’s not just “the state” writ large that concerns me. If you’ve been paying any attention the last few years, you may have noticed a rising trend in right wing violence. Fascist paramilitary groups have become increasingly emboldened and are rarely held to any account by the state. Left wing paramilitary groups have historically had a different experience altogether. Are you one of those people who are genuinely concerned that this might be “the last election”? If so, why would you want to risk giving this kind of data to a Trump administration?

    solsangraal,

    why do people still think they’re going to do a goddamn thing against the us military with their tacticool ar15?

    ArcaneSlime,

    What did the French think they were going to do against the German military? Frankly I’d rather die in “The Resistance” than just be like “ok yeah cool, fascism!”

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    So why didn’t you die in the resistance between 2016 and 2020?

    ArcaneSlime,

    Did we have a different 2016-2020? Where were the camps, tanks, and aforementioned resistance fighters? OH Myanmar? I don’t live there.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I see, you’re only joining in the resistance after the genocide begins.

    ArcaneSlime,

    After the resistance begins*? Yeah lol. Your suggestion that I be a lone wolf with a rifle v the US gov isn’t “a resistance” and is instead just a mass shooting, and you know it. Quit pretending you’re that dumb.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Got it. You’re going to wait for someone else to revolt after the genocide starts and then you’ll do it.

    ArcaneSlime,

    Oh my mistake, guess you’re not pretending.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m not pretending to be a hero, true.

    BradleyUffner,

    I got news for you. The fascists already have the guns, and the 2nd amendment is just making it worse.

    JamesTBagg,

    CA has one. And they’ve already leaked the data to hackers, I think twice now. So if some tech savvy thieves wanted to target specific houses, now they have a list.

    iknowitwheniseeit,

    Why would you target houses where there is a chance that the people living there may kill you?

    JamesTBagg,

    Most burglaries are going to happen when the occupants aren’t home. You won’t see any gun stickers or 2nd amendment stickers on any of my vehicles or windows, no need to let anyone know what I own. Not that it matters, because the CA DoJ has a list with my name, address and all my registered firearms on it that they just put out into the world.

    TunaCowboy,

    They didn’t leak it to hackers, they straight up published it on their website.

    Address, dl number, phone number, etc.

    Plenty of victims of sexual assault, domestic abuse, etc. legally acting to protect themselves were doxxed, not only to their abuser but anyone visiting the CA DOJ website.

    lugal,

    When gun owners are targeted, they can defend themselves

    LifeInMultipleChoice,

    …how?

    Do you shoot people that aren’t shooting at you and get life on prison/shot to death or get arrested and then they take your guns when they have you cuffed in the back seat. Neighbors don’t come out and stop it. It just doesn’t happen. Guns don’t protect people, they mostly just endamger people (from someone who has owned guns since I turned 18)

    xkforce,

    Thats a weird way to say “threaten to murder people that disagree with them politically.”

    Mango,

    And should.

    Dagwood222,

    Yeah, that one time back in the 1940s when pretty much everyone involved was a trained veteran and the Federal government ended up stepping in.

    The only time the police step away from armed citizens is if there’s a powerful political reason.

    Cliven Bundy had politicians on his side, the Black Panthers didn’t.

    Crack0n7uesday, (edited )

    The NSA already has the database and is tracking both of those anyway under secret FISA warrants.

    TrickDacy,

    …?

    zaph,

    Secret court. I case you thought we had a transparent justice system.

    TransplantedSconie,

    Well, it’s not so secret now is it?!

    Gal-durn blabbermouths.

    Lets_Eat_Grandma,

    Better watch out for the IRS, SSA and not to mention all those state DMVs. They know what you make and what car you drive!!!111oneone

    4am,

    The fact that you think they get warrants to collect data into that database is cute.

    Crack0n7uesday,

    They probably have like one warrant that’s basically just a blank check to spy on anyone.

    TangledHyphae,

    Which continue to expand, and just expanded even more this last time under Biden unfortunately.

    PriorityMotif,
    @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

    They don’t need one because of third party doctrine. They can just ask your phone carrier for your location and useage data and Google for your browser history. Those companies are free to sell that information to the government, which they do.

    Crack0n7uesday,

    But they have to publicly disclose that information if they sell it, under a FISA warrant there’s already a gag order on it.

    PriorityMotif,
    @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

    The public disclosure is in the EULA, which nobody reads.

    UnderpantsWeevil,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t recall the “NSA plan to track women’s periods” in the Snowden dump. And so many gun sales are cash-and-carry that it’s not something they can manage easily.

    For any given person, I’m sure the FBI could figure it out with time and effort. But there’s no national tracking database for all guns and pregnancies

    uis,

    It may be new. Snowden dump was what? More than 10 years ago?

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