@Elischa Israel has been slaughtering palestinians on palestinian land for my entire 70 year life, and latter are the assaulted ones with the right to defend themselves against apostate Jews (I'm Jewish btw and KNOW #Zionists are apostate) who adhere to Mein Kamf as a bible instead of the Torah and ancient teachings. @banned_tweets_of_john_cusack@palestine
@nicholas_saunders@morpheo@rad@Elischa@banned_tweets_of_john_cusack@palestine
Even if Hamas is just using the Palestinians genuine issues as an excuse to commit violence & would continue if those issues were sorted out, which is possible, it would at least remove the recruitment rallying cry those issues act as right now so fewer members.
Your questions are speculative, at best, and in bad faith, aka sealioning. But here's your answer before you get the block:
None. Not as long as there is Israeli occupation and siege. Which there is, and cannot be hypothetised into non-existance.
@AutisticMumTo3
OTOH it was Israeli oppression that created (even funded) Hamas, so it's not very plausible, really, even though they're supposedly islamist.
Yeah, as I usually say -- problems with Palestine start and end with Israel. Hamas is a reactionary force created to combat Israeli oppression, not the other way around. Without Israeli apartheid and colonial politics Hamas would not be a thing.
They are just a rabid dog let loose by Israel that eventually bit Israel's ass.
@morpheo@rad@banned_tweets_of_john_cusack@palestine
In my original post I said possible I didn't say likely. I was thinking it's possible over the years some folk who are in it just cause they like the violence may have joined and may do some violence in Hamas' name even if most people have quit Hamas or Hamas had officially given up violence.
Respectfully, you seem be be splitting the middle:
"Reasonableness is a fallacy in that it is held to be an objective test. However, it would seem to be subjective in that it is based very much upon the internalised values and practices..."
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Whereas your position is exactly inline with the context of colonization sought by South Africa.
@nicholas_saunders@morpheo@rad@banned_tweets_of_john_cusack@palestine
I was talking about if Palestinians got their own state, etc and were free from Israeli persecution. And thinking about it the Hamas leadership wouldn't give up even though to many members it would be job done and they would quit Hamas. To the leadership though , as well as some other members, it wouldn't be job done as Isreal would still exist & there would be Isrealis. To those who want genocide not simply a
If their land was stolen by settlers then a two state solution doesn't resolve that in any way. Asking Palestinians to accept the injustice of colonialism would be an injustice.
Which is exactly what you, autistic, are advocating.
@nicholas_saunders@morpheo@rad@banned_tweets_of_john_cusack@palestine
To reset things to before Isreal was created would require a one state all of it Palestine solution. There is no way any Israeli govt would ever allow that to happen nor would the international community. I'm not convinced that Palestinians would agree to some sort of power sharing agreement for a renamed country in a one state solution. I don't think the Palestinians would trust the Israelis enough.
@nicholas_saunders@morpheo@rad@banned_tweets_of_john_cusack@palestine
If there is no free Palestine without all the land returning to Palestine then there never will be a free Palestine. The only hope for a free Palestine is for there to be a change of govt in Israel and for there to be a free Israel & free Palestine. At the moment even that is a long way off. Apartheid does need to end in Israel but that is more likely than an end to Israel itself although also a long way off currently
End the occupation, Israel has no right to defend itself from the people it occupies, nor the right to exist on stolen land they got after an ethnic cleansing. There's your answer bozo.
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