I like that they're moving to something self-hosted. I don't like that it's a non-threaded forum again. I liked Reddit and do like kbin / Lemmy because the structure of the threads is preserved much better, like it was with Usenet or mailing lists before. I think a better approach would have been to host such an instance on their own.
This is what needs to happen. All these groups that relied on Reddit as a "transparent" and safe method to host forums need to move out. All that's happening here is that Reddit feels like they own all this data and information and thinks they can charge for it.
Happy to see Jellyfin making the move that is beyond "going to the next Reddit" and actually taking ownership of their data and community to safeguard it.
There's a lot of nostalgia in those old forums but it is nice to be able to take your reputation around the interwebs with you. Not to mention that a lot of those old forum operators had to be technical on some level to maintain their instances.
Yeah I wish to go back to that. Too bad the old forums I used to post in are now mostly locked and archived with only one or two sections open due to lack of moderators/time in the hands of the owners
Discord is worse than Reddit for anything other than chatting. You can't view a Discord without an account, Discords aren't indexed by search engines or protected by google cache / archive.org, Discord's API usage policy is even more restrictive than Reddit's new one (it's completely against the TOS to create third party discord clients at all)...
Being able to look at the historical threads on a subreddit like hardwareswap is really important for learning the value of what you have. A format where every offer gets its own collapsible conversation thread is much better than every negotiator popping up in sequence.
Yup, agreed. Discord is only good for chatting. I do not find Discord to be a good place to share information or to even use their 'forum' channel option.
And don't forget that you can't even have multiple tabs open (servers, or channels within a server, or even DMs) in the desktop application. You'd need to open fresh browser tabs individually and aim each one directly.
How is Discord better? It's also a walled garden that doesn't allow 3rd party clients, and it's just a horrible website to run a forum like this. In fact it's just horrible all around.
It may be more convenient for this person, but hard disagree on it being better (especially over a separate forum like Jellyfin is moving to.) Looks like you're already on that scent though 👍
Hate discord with a passion. I don't know why all the "new-age" open-source projects are also moving to Discord as their primary forum. The search is abysmal, there's no way to go back to previous postings in a sane manner.
I reluctantly use discord because some of my favorite application developers use that (Immich, Omnivore, Logseq) but it's just a massive pain in the ass and every time I spend even 10 minutes there, it feels like I've spent hours looking into the dark mayhem, searching for a needle in the haystack.
Social media, sucks huh? I honestly think that people are supposed to be meeting face to face, building each other up with empathy and seeking new experiences to share.
You know, the usual clickbait dream we get sold for every recession lol
Communities move to Discord because it is a catchment: you can set up a server for free on a moment's notice, which gives you a place to hold a decent proportion of your community for continuity. The mod tools are also sufficient for basic use. You're right that it's not a replacement for a forum - terrible for archival and search purposes.
The Matrix Code of Conduct actively condones harassment as long as the Matrix people dislike your politics, which makes all the official forums unsafe for technical coordination.
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