Immersive_Matthew,

Wow. That is delusional. What an underdeveloped human being he was for saying that.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”

Upton Sinclair

Custoslibera,

‘One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics. Their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails.’

No see he thinks we are the delusional ones…

Seleni,

Wow, that’s some real Selfawarewolves material right there.

DemBoSain,
@DemBoSain@midwest.social avatar

The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.

www.battlefields.org/learn/…/cornerstone-speech

Seems pretty clear, I don’t know why there’s an argument.

joobeejoo47,
joobeejoo47 avatar

I was taught this growing up. It took me a long time to get out of that “states rights” mindset and accept the fact that a bunch of rebels could be bad people. The Ordinances of Secession really helped with that.

Custoslibera,

How did the Ordinance of Secession help you with that?

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

Most of them reference slavery as the cause, I believe.

Custoslibera,

I was just flicking through it I couldn’t find states that specifically mentioned it.

I’ll have another read.

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

Looks like only three Ordinances reference slavery, must be the declarations I'm thinking of.

Anticorp,

fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue.

And

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

There are 18 references to slavery in that document.

yesman,

South Carolina’s Deceleration of Secession really spells it out. Check it out it’s not long.

avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp

Ever since I read this, I don’t say “Confederate”, I say slave-holding. That’s how they self-identified and I’ll never let them forget.

Anticorp,

Why did they spend so much time on the history lessons? Over half the document is just rehashing history. I guess to establish precedent?

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