anarchotoothbrushist,

Summary for those who haven’t watched:

  • Vote, or don’t, but it won’t change the system
  • The system will not offer significant concessions unless its existence is credibly threatened

Seems hard to argue with.

mambabasa,
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Would love to see people actually engaging with the text rather than just downvoting.

pbpza,

Yeah, like I am voting to not give fascists slots in the system without the fight, but the truth is that direct organizing is much better to change the system and you can easily fall into the trap of caring too much about electoral politics.

perestroika, (edited )

I wasn’t one of the downvoters, but I am one of the not-engagers.

It’s not a text, it’s a YouTube video… I don’t prefer videos as a source of information, they cannot be quoted, they cannot be scanned quickly. A video demands you to go all in.

Regarding voting: it’s what the current political systems in most countries use to determine which party gets to govern. Some notes:

  • a population not using their right to vote will soon see a worse future
  • a population only using their right to vote will not see a better future
  • improving voting (e.g dropping “first past the post” and going proportional) may improve the political process
  • an important political right is the ability to create a party and gain representation
  • "first past the post" systems essentially deny people this right under all but the most dire circumstances
  • but countries with a proportional multiparty system are still capable of failing
  • replacing voting (e.g. with sortition) may bring additional improvements
  • removing single person offices of great power (e.g. presidents) may further improve things
  • decentralizing more aspects of power may further improve things
  • regardless, sometimes a group of people will want to vote on a matter
punkisundead,

It’s not a text, it’s a YouTube video… I don’t prefer videos as a source of information, they cannot be quoted, they cannot be scanned quickly. A video demands you to go all in.

If I can add something to that: YouTube that lets you see a (most times auto generated) transcript of the video. When you expand the video description you can click “Show transcript” for it to appear next to the video. This might atleast help somewaht with quoting

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