Foreign Minister Penny Wong says Israel has a right to defend itself, and judging its security decisions from a distance is "very difficult", as Israel's government vows to cut off food and water to the blockaded Gaza Strip.
Well, looking at the Geneva convention and Article 8 “War Crimes” of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, “Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions.”
And one committing a crime doesn’t allow the other to do the same. So either get pissed at both sides for war crimes or get pissed at none. But trying to excuse war crimes for one side in a war is a disgustingly hypocritical thing to do.
I tend to think of it this way, personally: stealing is wrong, but it’s more acceptable to steal when you’re poor than when you’re rich. Both sides are committing attrocities, but one does so to opress while the other to liberate themselves from opression. I will acknowledge that my understanding of the conflict is very limited though, so this might be oversimplified or outright incorrect.
In practical terms how do you organise aid for a state you’re at war with? How do you ensure the safety of your aid workers in a way that doesn’t involve your military, but also doesn’t just provide new hostages? How do you stop your own aid workers from getting in the way of military operations?
I guarantee you Israel wouldn’t do this if they had a better option, this will only radicalise the normal people who start to go hungry and thirsty.
You understand food has to come from somewhere and Israel controls the sea, the air and most of the land while bombing the fuck out of the people and infrastructure.
Not starving millions of people right on their doorstep is not highest on their list of priorities?
It’s pretty easy to not cut off their power supply that they control.
It’s pretty easy to stop carpet bombing civilians (including the banned use of phosphorus weapons near densely populated areas which happened yesterday)
It’s pretty easy to not stop humanitarian aid.
It’s pretty easy to stop blockading them.
It’s pretty easy to stop killing them indiscriminately.
In practical terms you avoid the situation entirely by not operating an open air prison for decades and indiscriminately bombing civilians, thereby breeding terrorists with nothing to loose, and then cutting off the food, water and electricity to civilians as a collective punishment.
You guarantee Israel wouldn’t do this if they had a better option? I think it’s far more likely that the far right in Israel have just been waiting for an excuse to do this.
I would argue that it's quite easy to judge, at any distance, the collective punishment of civilians through the withholding of the essentials of life.
We've a referendum this weekend largely on whether we're ready to confront uncomfortable and complex consequences of a history of colonial violence. What's more difficult is reconciling these sorts of statements from a government that says it is.
And the Palestinian population at large has done that have they? Maybe we should judge the so called “settlers” for stealing peoples homes and having picnics while watching Palestinian protestors shot by IDF snipers? Or shall we just pretend that Israel has been the perfect “neigbour”?
They’re whatabouting the fact that Hamas do, in fact, represent the views of most Palestinians. Comparing them to the Aboriginal tribes is a grave insult to the latter.
A bunch of rich kids partying on land pissing distance from the walls erected to lock in 2 million Palestinians, which was stolen from those Palestinians grandparents, are most definitely the fucken oppressors here mate.
Especially when you throw in compulsory military service
There were two ‘Reigns of Terror,’ if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the ‘horrors’ of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break?
What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror–that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
There’s one side that have done some very questionable things over the years, and there’s another that went out of their way to massacre civilians. I’m by no means a fan of Israel, but Hamas are outright evil.
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