Goadstool,
@Goadstool@hexbear.net avatar

I usually try not to engage in discussions about this stuff (except for once before like years ago), but maybe I’ll indulge a little bit and just say that not only does it make me uncomfortable when I see it, but I also know that it actively turns many people away from ideas of actual leftism when they see it, especially whenever they don’t know how “serious” people are around here when they throw around the cracker-word.

I’m bi-racial and I don’t have much of a “racial identity” (whatever that’s even supposed to be or look like), so admittedly I always get at least a little uncomfortable when anybody starts talking about their or someone else’s “race”, much the same way I get a little uncomfortable when people start generalizing each other because of their age, their gender, whatever.

I fully recognize that white privilege is a real thing in western cultures, and that anyone who can be construed as “non-white” is put at a very real disadvantage in many real-world situations (sometimes fatally so), and so because of that I also recognize the urge to undermine the general concept that “white = good / normal” by lashing out against it. But when you call someone who’s open to leftism but doesn’t have a complete understanding of things a “cracker”, for example, you put them down in a way that they usually perceive as intensely bigoted, to the degree that they will stop listening to every single thing you say after that. They’ll leave here, and never take to you or anyone associated with whatever they perceive as your ideology seriously again. And I think that’s a big shame, because instead you could be trying to guide them to a more enlightened view of the world.

Ultimately - regardless of how justified it is by societal conditions - it’s a hateful act, born of hate (often times self-hate), and I don’t feel like that’s in the spirit of communism.

And, at the end of the day, I am conserving all my hatred for the moment when I personally blow away mr-beast during the revolution.

lil_tank,
@lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Abolishment of white supremacy necessarily results in the erasure of the core of White identity since whiteness is a construct that is rooted in the idea of white superiority.

a_blanqui_slate,
worldonaturtle,

Are you fucking quoting yourself?

stigsbandit34z,
@stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net avatar
Pepsi_Cola_Marxist,

Okay, fair enough, but how about POCs who don’t like white people? Can I bitch about white people without it being cringe?

freeindv,

I mean, do you consider racism cringe?

viva_la_juche,
@viva_la_juche@hexbear.net avatar
HauntedBySpectacle,
@HauntedBySpectacle@hexbear.net avatar

It doesn’t need to be racist to be cringe or unhelpful

Honestly I thought these jokes were funny 3 or 4 years ago but have we not beat the dead horse enough at this point? It’s just overplayed now

viva_la_juche,
@viva_la_juche@hexbear.net avatar

We can reassess it’s necessity when the underlying critiques of white supremacy stop being relevant

EmmaGoldman,
@EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net avatar

In the last 24 hours one of the biggest of these threads can be distilled down to saying “Skiing is white supremacist for only being in places with cold climates”, “snow is racist”, and “sports that do not specifically cater to me and the place I live are inherently bourgeois.” People just blew up a thread about skiing bitching about the gear being expensive in California, imagining that people would make fun of them for using old gear (most people think retro gear is dope), and saying that it’s problematic because it doesn’t exist in [places where snow does not fall]

Half of the threads that are ostensibly about hating white people are posted by a couple of users who mostly post these types of threads very clearly as a form of self harm.

These arguments are not as productive or relevant as you think.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

You need to understand white people need of making everything about them. Is like basically their only culture.

AlicePraxis,

white people can’t help but fantasize about genocide even when it’s to themselves

but on a serious note I think for some users it crosses into suicidal ideation and that makes me very uncomfortable

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