paulox, 7 months ago Interesting article about the original goal of the Django admin module by Vince Salvino from CodeRed with the provocative title "Why is the Django Admin “Ugly”?" 🔥 https://www.coderedcorp.com/blog/why-is-the-django-admin-ugly/ CC @jacob @django @wagtail #django #admin #contrib #ux #ui #codered #wagtail
Interesting article about the original goal of the Django admin module by Vince Salvino from CodeRed with the provocative title "Why is the Django Admin “Ugly”?" 🔥 https://www.coderedcorp.com/blog/why-is-the-django-admin-ugly/
CC @jacob @django @wagtail
#django #admin #contrib #ux #ui #codered #wagtail
FunkyBob, 7 months ago @paulox @jacob @django @wagtail Even in the 0.9x days we used to have a image that said "Admin: it's not your app". Encouraging people to build their own management interface, and treat admin as a DB admin tool, has saved a lot of people pain. Admin gives you some quick wins, and you can customise it. But the effort to customise it grows far faster than the payoffs. Sadly, by the time you realise that you're too invested, and nobody wants to spend the time to build a management interface.
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Even in the 0.9x days we used to have a image that said "Admin: it's not your app".
Encouraging people to build their own management interface, and treat admin as a DB admin tool, has saved a lot of people pain.
Admin gives you some quick wins, and you can customise it. But the effort to customise it grows far faster than the payoffs.
Sadly, by the time you realise that you're too invested, and nobody wants to spend the time to build a management interface.
paulox, 7 months ago @FunkyBob @jacob @django @wagtail I totally agree. 👏 Unfortunately sometimes developers are lazy and/or usually customers have no time. 🤦 Every time I try to avoid using admin in production, I also remove it from the INSTALLED_APPS list. ✅
@FunkyBob @jacob @django @wagtail I totally agree. 👏 Unfortunately sometimes developers are lazy and/or usually customers have no time. 🤦 Every time I try to avoid using admin in production, I also remove it from the INSTALLED_APPS list. ✅
FunkyBob, 7 months ago @paulox @jacob @django Does anyone else remember when to access admin required running a separate command?
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Does anyone else remember when to access admin required running a separate command?
webology, 6 months ago @FunkyBob @paulox @jacob @django 🙋 You should trigger warning these to not bring back old memories of working with client installs from way back. 🤣
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🙋 You should trigger warning these to not bring back old memories of working with client installs from way back. 🤣
wagtail, 6 months ago @FunkyBob @paulox @jacob @django So should we tell everyone who wants a pretty admin interface to use django CMS / Wagtail / Mezzanine then? 😉
@FunkyBob @paulox @jacob @django So should we tell everyone who wants a pretty admin interface to use django CMS / Wagtail / Mezzanine then? 😉
jacob, 6 months ago @wagtail @FunkyBob @paulox @django I would summarize it as: if you need a basic CRUD interface to your data, for admins/devs: Django Admin if you need a bonafide CMS: Wagtail if you need administrative functions with complex workflow/biz logic, or user-facing features: write your own views
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I would summarize it as:
FunkyBob, 7 months ago @paulox @jacob @django Admin takes a very data-centric view of your system, which makes sense for a DB Admin tool. A good management interface will have a more process-centric view of your system.
Admin takes a very data-centric view of your system, which makes sense for a DB Admin tool.
A good management interface will have a more process-centric view of your system.
vincesalvino, 7 months ago @FunkyBob @paulox @jacob @django I often explain it as a database-viewer as well. Lots of good info in this thread, I'll have to update the article!
@FunkyBob @paulox @jacob @django I often explain it as a database-viewer as well. Lots of good info in this thread, I'll have to update the article!
paulox, 7 months ago @vincesalvino @FunkyBob @jacob @django I'm happy this thread added some info. Let us know when you update the article.
@vincesalvino @FunkyBob @jacob @django I'm happy this thread added some info. Let us know when you update the article.
vincesalvino, 7 months ago @paulox @FunkyBob @jacob @django Updated the article with FunkyBob's quote. Thanks!
@paulox @FunkyBob @jacob @django Updated the article with FunkyBob's quote. Thanks!
paulox, 7 months ago @FunkyBob @jacob @django This makes totally sense to me. It's a good way to explain it. 👏
@FunkyBob @jacob @django This makes totally sense to me. It's a good way to explain it. 👏
frank, 7 months ago @paulox @jacob @django @wagtail built for Phil. That is awesome.
@paulox @jacob @django @wagtail built for Phil. That is awesome.
frank, 7 months ago @paulox @jacob @django @wagtail I sent the article to Phil as I’m sure he’ll get a kick out of it!
@paulox @jacob @django @wagtail I sent the article to Phil as I’m sure he’ll get a kick out of it!
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