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Hypx, in Intelligent Energy unveils new hydrogen fuel cell to unlock a zero-emission future for passenger cars
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Fuel cells have the potential to help overcome the challenges associated with Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV), namely a dependency on limited natural resources, electric grid capacity, battery charging time and vehicle range. Fuel cells can also be as cheap to manufacture as internal combustion engines and can be produced using recycled and recyclable materials.

Reminder that fuel cells are less dependent on resources than batteries, can be about as cheap as ICEs to make, and can be made out of recycled materials.

stevestevesteve, in How Honda and GM are proving hydrogen cars can work

Regardless of any other issues, I just don't have a desire for a hydrogen car. I like the concept of a single drivetrain serving a "hybrid" (fuel cell is a lot simpler than a whole ICE) but a big draw of going electric for me would be never having to go to a filling station again and this definitely doesn't solve that problem

Hypx,
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Public fast charging is the same experience as a filling station. Except it takes longer.

bigschnitz,

I can also do it overnight at home once a week. I'm a mechanical minded guy and love the combustion engine, but I can't see it having mainstream appeal once people realize how much more convenient electric is for a daily commuter.

Hypx,
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The car in the article is a PHEV. It can do the same thing.

bigschnitz,

Yeah but why bother with lugging around a combustion engine you're not using? It's just weight, cost and maintenance effort.

I'm one of those dinosaurs who refuses to buy any car with less than 3 pedals, but even I can see that in the near future, electric drivetrains will better suit most people.

Hypx,
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It’s not a combustion engine. It’s a fuel cell.

tmyakal, in Plug Power unveils hydrogen-powered truck for middle-mile deliveries

Plug Power has also done about fifty rounds of layoffs in the last six months. Excuse me if I'm skeptical of good news.

Rentlar, in Hydrogen Energy Is Getting A Heavy Infusion Of VC Funding

Cyncial take: since much of the North American and European public aren't buying the oil lobby's lies on natural gas any longer, they are pivoting to ways they can use hydrogen and carbon capture as their next distraction.

Deceptichum, in Belgium, Netherlands and Germany join forces to drive hydrogen economy
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Boo.

onlinepersona, in World's highest-efficiency hydrogen system scales up for mass production

95% efficiency is crazy! But there'll probably be losses in transport and then the fuel cell (or however it generate energy later). Don't know how that compares to oil though...

Still, I'm glad there's progress being made in this domain!

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Cypher, in Why hydrogen could be more than just a bandage for our global climate crisis | Nicolas Vad | TEDxURI

Can I get rooftop hydrogen?

Hypx,
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It's possible. You can either electrolyze water at home, or eventually there will be photocatalytic systems that makes hydrogen directly.

SupraMario,

I'm watching the systems that basically pull the water out of the air and use solar to convert it. Drop ship style systems like that could become basically the gas stations of today for tomorrows hydrogen cars.

cindybyrd547, in Cummins starts H2-ICE production at new India facility
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Warl0k3, in China develops first 100 kg vehicle-mounted liquid hydrogen system

"With a capacity to carry up to 100kg of hydrogen"

about 7L / 1.8 gallons, if anyone was curious. Also known as a "fucking terrifying amount of hydrogen" assuming this AI-written article with absolutely no content isn't BS.

rImITywR, in Zero-carbon emission flights to anywhere in the world possible with just one stop

Liquid hydrogen fuel is what they are proposing, thats it.

If you consider how much energy LH2 takes to produce and store, its not zero-carbon.

And now you have a passenger jet that is as complicated and expensive to operate as the space shuttle. I don't think anyone is seriously considering LH2 as the " future of air travel".

Hildegarde,

Liquid hydrogen can be produced entirely with renewables. Nothing about the process inherently requires fossil fuels, but its so energy intensive the vast majority of hydrogen production is made with fossil fuels.

It is possible to fly planes at the speed and range they currently do with renewable hydrogen. However it will likely never be feasible to replace the entire current aviation industry with it.

The future of air travel will be worse. There need to be less planes and they will fly slower and shorter route. This isn't a problem that can be solved by just putting a different fuel in the planes.

Hypx,
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The alternative is SAF, which in the long run will be made by combining H₂ with CO₂ to form long-chain hydrocarbons. This effectively is the same thing as using kerosene. But it will require vast amounts of green hydrogen too.

SupraMario, in Toyota & Kenworth are Betting BIG On Hydrogen: But Are They Right?

To all the EV people, they're %100 wrong and will fail...

Deceptichum, in Hyosung Heavy Industries Leads with World's First Hydrogen Engine Generator
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Fuck hydrogen, we need renewable and green energy not oil 2.0

yol, in Green hydrogen startup Hysata pockets record $172 million Series B

Hope this goes better than Nikola.

onlinepersona, in Germany Backs Plans for Hydrogen-powered Regional Airliners

The German government’s Digital and Transport department is backing the new Balis 2.0 project to develop hydrogen-powered regional airliners with €9.3 million ($10 million) in funding

Amazing how little the German state is willing to invest. Companies in the US get 100 times that for making shit video playing services

The streaming landscape Quibi was seeking to disrupt is full of heavy hitting competitors like Netflix and Amazon, which have massive budgets. While Quibi raised $1.75 billion from investors, it wasn't enough to compete against the financial resources of bigger companies.

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At least 9.3M is something but goodness me is it laughable in comparison.

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Broken_Monitor, in The Hydrogen Stream: US government targets $2/kg by 2026, $1/kg by 2031

So most hydrogen is produced using fossil fuels, or via electrolysis, which just uses the very power this aims to produce. I like how they put “clean” in quotes, indicating that’s more of a bullshit name than the reality, and then they fail to mention how it would be “clean”. It seems like this is just an intermediate step to cover up fossil fuel bullshit.

towerful,

Electrolysis will eventually be "clean" as it comes from electricity and water, neither of which require fossil fuels...
The majority of our electricity comes from fossil fuels at the moment, which everyone is working on phasing out in favour of solar/wind/tidal/geo/etc.

The hydrogen then gives you a high energy density solution for things like aeroplanes.

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