half, (edited )
@half@lemmy.world avatar

Try not to take it too personally: the commies are extra sensitive at the moment because they have to share the fediverse with a giant influx of liberals. You'd probably be upset if they were pouring into your space. Not that anybody owns it, but we all take things for granted. It'll cool off.

edit: the gears of this sarcasm machine are lubricated by Marxist tears

faceless,
@faceless@lemmy.world avatar

I've been reading the modlog (something that Lemmy does really well is make modding transparent) and people have been getting banned for stupid reasons like this

can,

Par for the course for 196.

half,
@half@lemmy.world avatar

You kinda get what you deserve for doing real politics in 196

slicedcheesegremlin,
slicedcheesegremlin avatar

Blahaj.zone are part of that wave though, they were just made a few days ago after 196 fled Reddit

WhatWouldKarlDo,
@WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

THEY are the ones banning the communists.

half,
@half@lemmy.world avatar

I suspect we may be operating on slightly different definitions of communism.

WhatWouldKarlDo,
@WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

In one sentence, I think that the proletariat are entitled to the fruits of their labour. What's yours?

half,
@half@lemmy.world avatar

The abolition of private property.

WhatWouldKarlDo,
@WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

So we ARE in agreement. Have a nice day!

half,
@half@lemmy.world avatar

Only if being "entitled to the fruits of labor" does not preclude the state (or any state-like entity, don't even start with me) from seizing and/or arbitrating the value of that fruit. If that's the case, what is the value of the so-called entitlement?

The reason private property is vital to a just society is that we do not know the ultimate purpose of society. We can not even estimate the size of the universe; claiming to understand the role of mankind without knowing its position in the cosmos is like claiming to understand a blood cell with no knowledge of the circulatory system. We all have exactly the same right and cause to determine the purposes of our own lives. Different life goals lead to different evaluations of goods and services. I do not eat flesh, listen to K-pop, or ski. To appropriate the value of my labor for the benefit of these systems for which I have no use is a violation of my natural right to determine the purpose of my own life. To phrase it collectively, it is a violation of our equal rights to determine the purposes of our own lives.

WhatWouldKarlDo,
@WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue with me about? It's your fruit. Do with it as you will, and pass those rights along.

Deceptichum,
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  • WhatWouldKarlDo,
    @WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Now you're getting it! Free the slaves, and send their owners to jail!

    indite,

    Huh

    indite, (edited )

    were you a unabomber apologist?

    faceless,
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    No?

    ChemicalRascal,
    ChemicalRascal avatar

    Well, go on, what did you post, then?

    faceless,
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    That I agree with SOME of his ideas. That doesn't mean I like how he tried to show them. Don't bomb posts offices.

    ChemicalRascal,
    ChemicalRascal avatar

    Okay, but what exactly did you post? C'mon now.

    faceless,
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    I can't find it, which is weird. I'll try to find a way back machine image of the post for you

    indite,

    well let this be your wake up call, now you can be one consequence free

    go forth and sin brother

    aeternum,

    protip: it's unAbomber. Means UNiversity and Airline bomber.

    indite,

    good catch, my bad

    purahna, (edited )
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Ted fucking sucked by the way

    https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/c7212679-3d27-45a2-9627-e3096c90bd9c.webp

    I get the frustration with liberalism, I deeply, truly do, but they were spot on, supporting Kaczynski is extremely reactionary and as a queer person it's extremely alienating when I see other "leftists" into him for what are basically cosmetic reasons because "muh industrial revolution bad" without even digging an inch below the surface in analysis.

    faceless,
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes

    nivenkos,

    This has nothing to do with lemmy.world

    AnonTwo,

    For starters...for an anarchist it's strange you're a stickler for the rules

    But also it's always going to be an unspoken rule that the mods can ban you from a site at their discretion. That's why moderation is done by people and not automated (mostly), because there's always going to be exceptions and things that weren't accounted for.

    As others have said you just kindof have to read the room sometimes.

    Deceptichum,
    Deceptichum avatar

    Anarchism isn’t a chaotic wasteland without rules and order.

    iridaniotter,
    @iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Horseshoe theory is real and it's communists and anarchists both getting kicked out of 196. Welcome to the club comrade

    Macabre,

    I'm guessing you pissed off some tankies.

    iridaniotter,
    @iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Ridiculous. That community got completely taken over by anti-communists. They ban every so-called tankie they see.

    knighthawk0811,

    anarchist complains that someone isn't following the rules... ba dum tiss

    faceless,
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    The rules are stupid, that's what I'm saying

    knighthawk0811,

    yeah, but if you're an anarchist then I just don't get it. how can you hold someone to a rule or have any opinion on the quality of the rules when you've already decided that all rules are stupid and you're not following any of them (unless you maybe are just following some in order to stay out of jail because reality exists outside of our internal priorities)

    faceless,
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    I dont know

    mr_pip,
    @mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    that point doesn‘t really hold its worth. a murderer‘s house cannot be searched without a warrant just because he is a murderer, he still has a right to privacy, which police need to keep.

    according to your take, police are allowed to search every self proclaimed anarchists houses.

    knighthawk0811,

    what? no. That would require that the governing body of the police were itself anarchist... which is a paradox.

    however, if the police did that then said anarchist would have to follow the establishment's rules in order to fight back and win. If said anarchist were always 100% true to their beliefs then they would not go the route of abiding the laws because they are against the establishment in every way. they would want to fight back, but not by following the rules.

    in your scenario, you made the police out to be anarchists themselves which is a bit backward. the police are fascist, or any other totalitarianism or similar.

    Deceptichum,
    Deceptichum avatar

    What a stupid fucking take.

    Anarchism is a stateless society without hierarchy. It’s not a society without rules, people can mutually agree to live within a social framework.

    knighthawk0811,

    until an anarchist comes along who thinks those rules are stupid.

    purahna,
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    like how we're all mutually agreeing to live within the social framework of the lemmyverse? I'm no anarchist but this is about as anarchist as voluntary organization of people gets

    tallwookie,
    @tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

    wtf is 196? is it a code like 420 and I'm just not in the loop?

    indite,

    leftist meme sub

    semi-anarchic, who knows really

    BlinkerFluid,

    They post doodles of cats, and something about trans people. That's all I know.

    discodoubloon,
    discodoubloon avatar

    It’s a meme sub with lgbt+ leanings. Pretty funny bunch. It started from /r/195, which was a random shitposting sub that gained cult status until it abruptly ended.

    wethan2,

    It's based off r/195, which was a sub where the main rule was that you had to make 1 post before leaving, that sub closed down a few years ago, then r/196 was made to replace it. IIRC r/195 was originally for some peoples apartment, with the name just being their apartment number. Eventually other people joined in because of the rule and it snowballed from there.

    Ostrichgrif,

    195 was a subreddit based off the mods dorm in college, the main gimmick is that if you visit you have to post something before you leave. The original sub shut down and 196 replaced it and became a very popular meme sub which then transitioned to Lemmy.

    tallwookie,
    @tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

    ok thanks! that's an interesting premise for a community.

    Mac,

    Okay, so?

    SchizoRamblings,

    We are never getting r/195 back

    faceless, (edited )
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    I don't agree with terrorism, I'm stupid but not that stupid. Ted kazinski was an awful man who bombed post offices, why would I ever agree with that?

    There's also no way to message mods to talk to them about this, they dont have an email or anything.

    socialjusticewizard,

    It seems to me you're probably in almost the wrongest place to ask.

    faceless,
    @faceless@lemmy.world avatar

    I have no idea where else to put this

    eric5949,

    Probably on the instance the community is on. See if that instance has a chat or general community.

    socialjusticewizard,

    Well, this c is specifically for discussion of this instance, and you're having problems on a different instance. If you're getting nowhere talking to the mods of that specific community you could try looking for a meta community on that instance to talk about it. Lemmy.world has nothing to do with moderation in a different community on a different instance.

    assbutt,
    assbutt avatar

    196 is for shitposting. Read the room, homie.

    You got banned for 3 days. Can you make it 3 days without shitposting in that particular place?

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