if i noticed something when talking with outspoken pro-nuclear people it's that you really can't trust anything they say. they are intellectually bankrupt, will use all kinds of shady argumentation tactics, ad hominems, and can't even be bothered to write their own arguments (instead using AI for that)
@kyonshi we can support nuclear energy without putting it by a population, next to tsunami, with occasional earthquakes. Godzilla's the least of the worries there.
@kyonshi They also don't well enough to provide for the world's energy needs, so disparaging the methods that are actually capable of doing their job seems a bit ass-backwards to me.
@Fywillan frankly, I doubt that would happen considering there's no free-flowing natural water to cool it. I am more concerned about them minimizing the dangers inherent in those plants with cheap tactics.
@kyonshi Thing is, the plants themselves are really not that dangerous unless the government is corrupt as all hell and allows them to be built where they shouldn't (Fukushima) or allows a bunch of incompetents to run them (Chernobyl). And if your government can't be trusted with something that can erase an entire town from the map, then you have bigger problems than nuclear energy.
@Fywillan now tell me: is there really a government in the world that you would trust with that?
because if it was up to me I wouldn't trust any of them, but especially with something so complex and dangerous corruption and incompetence are always going to be an issue.
@kyonshi Well, yes, most of them. I mean even Hungary managed to not blow themselves up, and they are nothing if not a bunch of incompetent corrupt bastards.
@kyonshi Humans are amazing as long as they can be held responsible for their actions. Notice how both nuclear meltdowns happened in countries where the political elite is much more entrenched than in the west. And while our politicians can get away with way more than they should, they wouldn't be able to get away with irradiating large swathes of their own country.
@Fywillan it's always a talking point that they don't provide enough for the world's energy needs. from what I can see there is plenty of untapped potential but no will to invest into it.
actually, I am not categorically against nuclear power, I am just against nuclear shills that try to minimize the dangers it has with bad faith arguments.
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