Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

But why do you need an AR-15? That wouldn’t do much against a tank. Why not get artillery instead? 🤔

PoliticalAgitator,

The fat fucks parading around in their plate carriers frothily screaming “shall not be infringed” at traumatised school children aren’t going to fire on a tank.

Most of them won’t even wear a mask in a pandemic to protect their countrymen, they’re definitely not going to die in battle for them. It’s who they want to be in their fantasies, not who they actually are.

You know what a lot of them would do though? Enthusiastically vote a fascist and then fire into crowds of people protesting fascist policies.

Entropywins,
Entropywins avatar

You've got a good head on your shoulders friend.

sentient_loom,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah like a literal civil war cannon, or a modern missile system.

Sharpiemarker,

I can ask more than one question. They’re both valid.

DLSchichtl,

Noting that the side of the APC says Pulaski County, this is in Arkansas. Pulaski County is home to the state capitol, and one of the most violent cities in America, Little Rock. As a previous resident of Little Rock, I’ll let this one slide. That place is a madhouse.

Dr_pepper_spray,

Okay, but why do you need an AR-15?

phthalocyanin,

itt: those in the priveledged position to rely on the state for defense of self and community would rob others of the ability to enforce their bodily autonomy and community defense.

‘only the [fascist] cops should be armed’ brain worms,

enforcing the capital owning class’ monopoly of violence (against ourselves),

a negative peace at the expense of justice.

you know-- bootlickers.

RememberTheApollo_,

To defend against the tools with arsenals of weapons based on military ones? I mean, neither should be a thing in this society, but here we are.

corsicanguppy,

A false dilemma crossed with whataboutisms and cherry-picking.

Did I get it right? There’s a lot of bad-faith arguments going on there so I may have missed one.

phoenixz,

Why not ask both?

Arsenal4ever,

The person who made the meme can only think of one thing at a time. Probably hormones.

FluorideMind,

The only thing keeping the American government from full on tyrany is the first amendment. The only thing keeping the American government from abolishing the first amendment is the second.

SpicaNucifera,

Because you have an AR15.

5714,

Yes, but they use these in Europe as well.

Thekingoflorda,
@Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world avatar

In which country?

5714,

Germany:

State Police of Berlin, Brandenburg, Hamburg, NRW, Sachsen, Bayern, MV, RLP have or plan to get Survivor R (Sonderwagen 5).

Federal Police have TM170 (Sonderwagen 4).

France:

RAID of the National Police have Petit Véhicule Protégé and Nexter Titus.

Italy:

Carabineri have RG-12 and VM90.

howsetheraven,

I feel like this is the logical next response. Shit meme.

infyrin,

And why cops need to send like 10 damn squad cars to handle a dude that’s already arrested for theft from a gas station.

Jeanschyso,

Probably one is because of the other, dontcha think?

dx1,

Police militarization is not because of citizens having arms. Rather, overproduction by the military trickles down into surplus sales to domestic police, and they eagerly gobble it up for various reasons such as “they like power”, “they like to feel like big men”, etc. They aren’t outgunned against anything besides a civilian uprising.

21Cabbage,

So Steven Seagal can run over your dog, next question.

the_q,

Neither is needed. Fuck.

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

Seems fair to ask both questions.

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Why I need an AR-15? Because I want one.

Why the cops need tanks? They don’t.

CoderKat,

IMO “they don’t” is an answer to both.

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

So don’t get a rifle.

SCB,

I actually prefer my police able to neutralize people who have AR-15s, thanks.

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Bootlicker

SCB,

Frankly I think you’re crazy so call me whatever

Mass shooters already exist and I’d prefer a professional force be prepared to stop them.

We disarm police and they lose the arms race, full stop. People will tribe up for protection, because all it takes is one psycho demanding that be status quo and it becomes that - check literally any developing nation for all the proof you need there. Living in a revenge-killing gang war zone is not my idea of a good time.

Just Google “Haiti” and tell me my deeply purple state wont degrade to open conflict.

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Probably. No normal person would expose themselves voluntarily to you.

Thaumiel,

Yeah, but the can have all the equipment they want and it doesn’t matter if they won’t go into situations (like, for example, an elementary school shooting) because they’re cowards.

SCB,

Yeah there we definitely agree.

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