eugenialoli,
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I looked at the based, , by . This is branded "alpha" right now, but I'm flabbergasted by the users online, who think that "by summer" that thing will be ready for general use.

News flash, it won't.

It generally takes 2-3 years minimum after the official release for a brand new DE (with a brand new & libs) to become truly useful to most people. DEs aren't adopted unless matured. Hamper your expectations, lads.

visone,
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@eugenialoli

All that hype is because cosmic is written in rust.
It's been repeating so many times the mantra of memory safety that most people think that anything in rust is stable and safe by nature, no matter the state of the project

zethtren,
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@visone @eugenialoli I think this is one of the biggest mistakes people make when evaluating the hype.

The memory safety is really just circumstantial to most people that write Rust. The actual community hype revolves around just how easy it is to write scalable, maintainable, and performant software when compared to things like C.

It’s the main reason so many things are (so quickly) rewritten in Rust. The language makes it easy once you learn it.

visone,
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@zethtren

Maybe for a dev who understand the pros and cos of each language but for the rest of mortals is just the highlight....

zethtren,
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@visone

Yeah my main point is that it makes software easier to write though. Even on big projects it’s found to be easier than GoLang.

This article from Google shows that their C++ devs felt 2x+ more productive even in the first 4 months of learning Rust. https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/31/rust_google_c/

So I wouldn’t be surprised if Cosmic destroys some of the DE lifecycle expectations just because of its convenience in development.

visone,
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@zethtren

But that doesn't mean that a new project is ready for produccion just after it's first alpha, a new DE build from the gound up no less, even if it's written in rust . And that was the meaining of my comment

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