tigerjerusalem, (edited )

There is NO appeal for this product. We already carry an AI device, it’s called a smartphone. We already have an AI device on our bodies, it’s called a smartwatch. This thing solves no problem and creates a lot of new ones, like being an annoying tamagotchi that doesn’t even bring the pleasure to use it. It’s a scam to pocket VC money.

EmilyIsTrans,
@EmilyIsTrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think the Rabbit R1 is an underbaked and dumb product. That said, Rabbit would have had to have had a few too many kicks to the head if they seriously considered not just running Android under the hood. Android is open source, and there is no good reason to not utilize the hundreds of millions of dollars that Google has already poured into developing mature a mature operating system with all the drivers and frameworks they need.

Lutra,

You are not the only one.

This weeks game of ‘Internet pile-on’

possiblylinux127, (edited )

I though this would be an honest discussion. Instead, I got down voted for not agreeing with the public narrative

brsrklf,

I don’t see any discussion below my honest opinion.

I do see a downvote though, whoever disagreed with me apparently preferred that to discussion too.

tigerjerusalem, (edited )

It’s not a “public narrative” when the product is objectively trash. You don’t get to have an opinion about a fact like “don’t eat plutonium because you will die” and say “oh, I don’t think so, it’s your narrative”.

boolean,
boolean avatar

yes. Enjoy your garbage.

lemmyworld2023,

Looks like a toy, functions as one too

possiblylinux127,

That’s not a bad thing in my head

brsrklf,

The appeal is the form factor

Looks like a red playdate.

Difference is, playdate is a fun toy, and that looks completely useless.

Zarxrax,

What amazes me is how many people care about this piece of crap in the first place. Like WHY is everyone talking about it? It could have been one of thousands of shitty tech products that I had never even heard of, but everyone wants to talk about it for some reason.

possiblylinux127,

Because it looks cool. The community slaughtered it before it had a chance.

tigerjerusalem,

This piece of e-waste was DOA before launch. The founders were with their heads too much up their own asses to realize that.

ThrowawaySobriquet,

Probably getting paid to spread sentiment, but the guys writing their checks really only know the steps to marketing a product while forgetting that the product also has to be, ya know, good. Typical MBA shit: put out a new thing that does an old thing in a new, walled garden sort of way then go absolutely HAM on pushing all the units before the influencers that still have souls start bashing it

shellsharks,
@shellsharks@infosec.pub avatar

AI brainworm

drmoose,

200usd is 10 months of chatgpt subscription. So it definitely has objective value. I’d buy it just make my own little bot or as casual toy. There’s no subscription or anything either.

I agree that the hate is meme levels of stupid. Sure the device sucks but people pick on the weirdest shit like “it uses android” or “it runs VM for actions that have no API” - well duuuuh.

possiblylinux127,

I think it would be cool if they completely opened everything up. I want to tie this device into a self hosted LLM

iopq,

But it’s like the free ChatGPT quality

drmoose,

You cant automate free chatgpt but you can easily automate rabbit’s api

isgleas,

This seems to be the juicero for the AI

breadsmasher, (edited )
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

They claim they made a custom os, so its totally reasonable to assume they are going to build a custom system from scratch

www.rabbit.tech/rabbit-os

They make no mention of AOSP

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f8726d11-4394-41a0-bccf-720c3cb0e63b.png

And finally, the whole thing is just an app and the device is entirely pointless

edit. and after watching someone use it - whats the point?! Its just a phone with a much worse interface, a terrible form factor, and it doesn’t even function.

Is OP the rabbit CEO or something

possiblylinux127,

Why would you want them to build it from scratch? That would just drive up cost and hurt the repairability of the device.

If they put android in the marketing materials people would assume that it is google android.

breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

Its entirely misleading

BearOfaTime,

Oh ffs, what a shitty, juvenile website. All lowercase, no real explanation of what it does, other than track users by having everything go through their servers.

Sounds like a scam to me.

And push to talk? Who uses that anymore? Welcome to 2000.

knightly,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

Yes.

They expected companies not to make badly-designed not-phones that depend entirely on internet services, most of which will undoubtedly be shuttered by the end of the year.

just_another_person,

Looks like it, yup.

best_username_ever,

What will you do when the company shuts down and it becomes a $200 brick?

possiblylinux127,

Install a custom ROM and DIY. That’s what I would likely do anyway for privacy

Remember, it is just android

Cheradenine,

Are you making this custom ROM? Seems unlikely anyone else will. To what end? A cheap phone does much more with better feel and battery life.

It’s just more on a computer with AI garbage.

possiblylinux127,

No other device has the same form factor as far as I can tell. All of the influencers have single handedly screwed this company over.

tigerjerusalem,

The company screwed themselves by hyping a nothing burger. The influencers just helped unaware consumers to not fall for this scam.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Wait. So you’re saying the only appeal of the device, is the hardware?

200 bucks of what’s reportedly exactly as cheap-feeling as the price suggests?

possiblylinux127,

I like the hardware

erwan,

There are much better devices to tinker with.

PlzGivHugs, (edited )

At least the stuff I’ve seen is more a criticism of the lack of functionality for the Rabbit, esspecially unique functionality or areas where it excels. The fact that it is basically all able to be contained in one app is viewed as evidence of the relative simplicity, and the fact that (as reviews highlighted) a phone provides a better interaction method compared to the dedicated devices just highlights how unnecessary the hardware is.

Basically, its competing against phones in functionality, but a phone at that price can do everything it can and better, plus so much more. Even worse when considering everyone also already owns a phone and won’t be able to replace with a Rabbit.

T156,

Also a little bit with it being advertised as “not an app”, when it turns out to be an app, and doesn’t have any special magic that makes it need that dedicated hardware.

LordBelphegor,

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  • vvv,

    That’s the other one. The Rabbit thing is $200, which, not that I would buy one, is not too unreasonable for an AI tamagotchi

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