Cryan24,

Brought to you by the same country that invaded iraq for Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found…

Fidel_Cashflow,
@Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml avatar

And Iraq the first time, for the incubator lie ( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony )

imnotfromkaliningrad,
@imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml avatar

and about 400 other countries before and since that

100_kg_90_de_belin,

Why would anybody think that the US could have beef with settlers killing civilians?

Boiglenoight,

That spokesperson doesn’t reflect well on his agency, our government or our people.

melpomenesclevage,

This is why I don’t identify as an american, despite my accent.

Scary_le_Poo,
@Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org avatar

The reason is that it has not issued any findings yet. It is going to in a few months.

This is clever wordplay, nothing more.

Edit: fuck me, it’s as if no one gives a shit about the truth anymore. It’s all kneejerk reactions.

This is a non-story. Governments don’t just willy nilly declare that somebody has or has not committed a war crime. It goes through an entire process. That process has not completed yet (in the US anyway). There are no findings yet. Therefore until the findings are released, the US has not found that Israel has done anything.

Fidel_Cashflow,
@Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml avatar

You seem to be a very savvy individual. Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge?

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

In Baltimore.

Scary_le_Poo,
@Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org avatar

Take your pills, grandpa.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

So in your opinion the US will bring the genociders to court a few months after there’s no one left to kill and that’s normal

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

So in your opinion the US will bring the genociders to court a few months after there’s no one left to kill and that’s normal

Scary_le_Poo,
@Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org avatar

You must be very new to the world. You really think a nuclear power will ever be held fully accountable for the bad things that they do?

Perhaps you and the bridge guy need to have a conversation. I hear that it’s in a gorgeous location near Brooklyn.

theacharnian,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

Since when is the US government the IC-fucking-J?

init,
@init@lemmy.ml avatar

“We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing”

Hestia,
@Hestia@hexbear.net avatar
AFC1886VCC,

US/Europe’s support of Israel and condemnation of Russia pretty much just shows the rest of the world what hypocrites they are.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Israel is committing a genocide, something Russia did not. What hypocrisy?

melpomenesclevage,

Russia is trying in Ukraine. Their stated war aims are explicitly genocidal. They’re just mostly failing, and not as fucking ghoulish about it as the kapo trash doing ‘protocols of the elders of zion’ larp with real bullets.

So condemning them is the right thing to do, but not condemning (and continuing to feed+arm) the worse assholes doing a worse version of the same thing on much more helpless people is the problem.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Trying a genocide? Pentagon constantly says in press reports that civilian casualties are atmost 1:10 to Ukraine military kills. There is no genocide that Russia has tried or committed. If you want to see genocide, see carpet bombings USA has always done, or the genocide Israel is openly doing. What Israel is doing is how a real genocide looks like.

Moreover, if you observed Zelensky a little, he said last year that he wants Ukraine to be the new Israel, and he said it recently as well. He also asked for WW3 last year, something not happening solely because of Putin’s decisions and Russian strategy.

melpomenesclevage,

Why even bother with this shit here, dude? Youre not convincing anyone; you’re just annoying. Go back to reddit or wherever; there are people uninformed and guillable enough to at least hesitate for youre bullshit there.

All youre doing here is hardening my convictiob that there needs to not be a ‘Russia’ after this.

MrMakabar,

France and Spain have voted fairly reliably against Israel. Spain called Israels action a genocide. Germany and the UK are the two European countries most pro Israel.

SexMachineStalin,
@SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net avatar

Meanwhile people still sneer at me about “Uyghurs” and accuse me of being “political” and a “takfiri” if I say anything to the contrary.

germany-cool eu-cool isntrael

Psiczar,

…and America used to be the good guy.

aStonedSanta,

Lmfao. When was that bud? When we killed the natives? When we locked up the Japanese? When we overthrow South American governments?

Fidel_Cashflow,
@Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml avatar

Maybe it was when we had an economy based on slave labor! If that’s the metric we’re using, America has been the good guys the whole time it’s existed!

Megaman_EXE,

I think this is an example of the winner writing history more than anything. America has done some messed up stuff

Omega_Haxors,

and the rest of the world says you’re complicit in their genocide.

cabron_offsets,

Fuck off.

m13,

US helps commit genocide.

melpomenesclevage,

Which, to be fair, is kind of a step up from their usual.

TropicalDingdong,

Let’s say it was Trump’s press secretary, and Russia they were defending…

Would you feel any different?

Nationalgoatism,

Until every member of the US and Israeli cabinets are swinging from a fucking tree

BleatingZombie,

As much as I hate it, from my understanding he’s right (expect for genocide). The UN doesn’t recognize Palestine as a country. Ergo internal conflict

Genocide is one of the only ways a country can break international laws without an international conflict

HumanPenguin,
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

Good point well made.

It is also a fair note. That neither Palestine or Israel has any real claim. The state that owned the land. The otterman empire. No longer existed when the land was allocated.

And while the UK allocation of peoples homes was crappy. The fact that the Palestinian peoples leaders refuse to accept any compromise that allows the existence of Israel. Is also the reason the current mess exists.

All sides are pretty fucked up here.

StalinIsMaiWaifu,
@StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml avatar

It is also a fair note. That neither Palestine or Israel has any real claim. The state that owned the land. The otterman empire. No longer existed when the land was allocated.

What the actual fuck are you talking about. Like seriously, what does it matter that the ottoman empire ruled the land, the Palestinians (including a number of orthodox Jews) lived there. That’s their fucking claim to it

And while the UK allocation of peoples homes was crappy. The fact that the Palestinian peoples leaders refuse to accept any compromise that allows the existence of Israel. Is also the reason the current mess exists.

Do you want to interrogate this further, why was it crappy, could it be because the UK had a vested interest in creating a colonial project? And why should the Palestinians compromise, colonizers are coming in, removing them from their homes and killing them indescriminately. How can you even compromise with Israel when they continue to illegally steal land on the west bank and golan heights (and of they had their way Sinai too)

All sides are pretty fucked up here.

Go fuck yourself

StalinIsMaiWaifu,
@StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The UN does not recognize a Palestinian government the UN charter explicitly described both the states of Palestine and Isreal

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