bobburger

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bobburger,

He's a voter suppressionist actively trying to get Trump elected under a thin veneer of guilt and shame. He's appealing to people that haven't been paying attention and think the Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians started right after October 7th, rather than in 1948. By doing this tries to claim that American support of genocide is brand new thereby absolving himself and others of the guilt associated with it, unless of course they also support The Genocide™ by voting for Joe Biden.

More importantly he can claim that Joe Biden is the only presidential candidate that supports The Genocide™, so vote for someone else and you won't be supporter of The Genocide™. The quiet part is that Trump never supported The Genocide™ because it never happened until Biden was president.

bobburger,

Unfortunately for you Israel has been committing genocide against the Palestinians since the 1948 Israeli/Arab war, and the United states has supported them since then. I guess if you want to pretend this is something new and Biden is the cause of The Genocide™ so you can feel better about yourself without actually making a difference then good for you. I applaud your mental gymnastics.

bobburger,

You:

if you vote for biden, you are voting for genocide

Me:

If you're a human being that exists in America you have supported genocide in some capacity, and voting for Biden doesn't mean you support it anymore than if you do not vote, voting 3rd party, or voting for Trump. America needs to fix its relationship with Israel and Palestine, but Joe Biden is no more culpable for what's happening in Gaza than any president before him, and he's light years ahead of the other main party candidate in his support for Palestinians. Your ability to place that blame solely on Joe Biden and people who support him involves an impressive level of mental gymnastics.

Hope that clears it up for you. If you mean something else I'd love to hear it.

bobburger,

Bazinga, got 'em

bobburger,

I don't know why Biden would cause so much inflation in Canada, England, France, Germany, and just about every other country on earth, but he did. What a dick.

Obama is also at least 10% to blame. Vote Trump 2024 to teach the Dems a lesson.

bobburger,

Why did Biden do the last recession? That bastard. I can't believe he controls monetary policy in all those countries, and controls the supply of goods and materials from China, Taiwan, and Africa. That dick!

bobburger,

Fuckin a right it is. The neat part is whats been happening in Gaza has been unconscionable for the last 50ish years. Unfortunately it didn't become trendy to talk about until it was a political liability for the American president.

bobburger,

Who's the alternative candidate with a reasonable shot at winning that has a policy that is more beneficial for Palestinians than Biden?

Don't say something stupid like "polling less than 1% for the 5th time Jill Stein" or "I'm not even sure which party I'm the candidate for but I need to sell some more books Cornell West".

Here's a list of third party candidates to help you out.

bobburger,

They have a reasonable shot at winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia? Okay...

bobburger,

It's not a refutation, its a question expressed with skepticism.

Regardless I don't think anyone is interested in explaining their path to the required 270 electoral college votes, but if you are I'm interested in hearing it.

bobburger,

Okay, that's not really how politics works at all any where in the world. I guess having such a simplistic and idealistic view of how politics works is what led you to the conclusion that any of the 3rd party candidates had a shot at getting elected.

bobburger,

Lol what a shit take.

Don't try to blame other people for your choices and actions. If you want to live in a Trump America, don't vote for Biden. Just remember, it was your choice and not something "Corporate elites" made you do.

bobburger,

What aid can they stop? Don't say something stupid like "sending weapons" or "military aid".
Since you have limitless knowledge of foreign policy and diplomatic relations with Israel, give me specific examples of aid that Joe Biden can unilaterally stop that would end the Genocide™ today.

We'll even ignore the fact the Bibi said they would continue the assault on Gaza even if the United States cut off all aid. Just tell me the aid that Biden can suspend that will end the Genocide™ today.

bobburger,

Biden and his administration stops supporting Israel,

What support can the Biden administration unilaterally withhold to so that Bibi stops carrying on? Be specific.

bobburger,

What military aid can Biden stop sending that will stop the Genocide™? The ICC arrest warrant didn't stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine, why do you think they will stop Netanyahu?

bobburger,

So you have no specifics on the aid Biden could stop that would stop the Genocide™?

Until you do everyone should assume you have no idea what Biden could do to stop the Genocide™ but you're enthusiastically talking out of your ass spouting gibberish because someone on tiktok told you that Genociden Biden© was solely responsible for the actions of a sovereign nation that he isn't president of.

Just so there's no ambiguity I specifically support a peaceful transition to a two state solution. After that I support the United States aggressively investing in Palestinian infrastructure and security so that the people of Palestine will have the means to support and defend themselves without having to rely solely on the good will of the UN and neighboring Arab states and Iran.

As for a solution to the current war in Gaza, I support strong political pressure on Israel to remove Netanyahu from power without permanently damaging the Israel/United States relationship. It's an incredibly delicate balancing act that will largely be invisible to the public eye. If not done correctly it could backfire on the United States by showing we abandon allies, which will further weaken our standing in the world, and increase the power that Russia and China have in the region.

A likely outcome of not handling this situation correctly is for the United States to burn all of its influence with Israel and still not stop the war in Gaza. It's important to remember that Netanyahu just needs to hold out until the next election; if Trump gets elected then Bibi will have carte blanche to do what he wants in Gaza given Trumps strong track record of supporting the most extreme forms of Zionism.

bobburger,

Lol, I gave specifics. Way to make a stupid claim, cry about getting called out on your stupid claim, try to turn the tables and dodge the questions calling out your stupid claim, and then hit me with the old "I know you are but what am I", all while never actually providing any support for your stupid ass claim.

bobburger,

🤣🤣🤣🤣 isn't maddening when you say stupid shit, get called out on it, get the specifics you ask for but refuse to provide any yourself and still keep trying to dodge and deflect without actually saying anything of value

bobburger,

Just stop providing military aid (I don't know what military aid we provide, or when, or where it comes from, or how it would actually impact the Genocide™) and don't pursue sanctions on the ICC (which isn't something I know existed until yesterday and I have absolutely no idea how an ICC arrest warrant might stop the Genocide™ because it never has before). Two very simple and not vague or ill defined things at all 🤡🤡🤡

bobburger,

Economically, militarily, and politically...yeah..

bobburger,

Damn Genociden Biden© doin the damn Genocide™ in a country that he isn't the president of! International politics is a simple and uncomplicated thing and Genociden Biden© could surely stop the Genocide™ by asking Netanyahu nicely to be nice. Netanyahu already said they'd pull out of Gaza if he got a nicely worded letter, why doesn't Genociden Biden© just do it?

bobburger,

Who's actively supporting genocide?

bobburger,

Lol what a stupid comment.

Stop pretending you understand how foreign policy and appropriations work, you clearly have no idea.

bobburger,

You seem to think the genocide started right after October 7th so you make vapid comments about Biden supporting genocide and use it to justify aggressively working to get Trump elected president.

Instead of acknowledging that international relations are really really hard, that every American president since Israel became a country has supported the genocide of Palestinians (including your boy Trump) and your lack of understanding around the issues you make inane comments trying to make paint Joe Biden as a omnipotent dictator that has unlimited power to control every other country on earth. I also find it interesting you spend a lot of time trying to suppress the vote for Biden in order to get Trump elected because you care oh so much about genocide, but you never use your soap box for divestment from China to stop the genocide of the Uyghurs. I'm sure that's just a coincidence though.

You also don't seem to understand what gaslighting is, which I guess is another trendy buzz word your picked up and decided to work into your vocabulary.

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