dojan

dojan, 7 hours ago

Oh ew, really? I’m not overly surprised to be honest, her video on trans people was awful.

dojan, 2 days ago (edited 1 day ago)

What? As a complete outsider (I’m from Sweden, scouts isn’t a thing here) what does scouting have to do with religion? Why would they discriminate against atheists?

I thought scouting was about natural sciences, and helping out in the local community? Which to me sounds pretty nice!

Edit: Scouts are a thing here in Sweden. Thank you for the corrections, I’m quite baffled I’ve managed to miss that.

dojan, 1 day ago

What? Sweden don’t have scouts?

Actually we do! I was corrected on this by @Droechai, and looking it up myself they’re actually quite prolific. Going by their website they exist in 220 out of the 290 municipalities here in Sweden. Honestly I’m surprised I’ve never heard of them before. They even have a folk high school.

dojan, 1 day ago

What! That’s also so bizarre! Isn’t AA just group therapy? Why does that require a deity?

dojan, 1 day ago

Ooh. I suppose this is the answer I was looking for, though it still strikes me as rather strange. Was scouts established a very long time ago and did the religious bit just kind of cling on? Is there any type of push for making it secular? Because what little I knew, learning about natural sciences, and getting hands-on experience in various situations, as well as helping out the local communtiy just strikes me as a very positive thing. Squeezing in religion among all that just feels so out of place and foreign to me. It’s like one of those “find the odd one out” situations.

dojan, 1 day ago

I love that they’re called Speider’n over there. I can see how that can be read as scouts, but in my head, “spejarna” sounds more like some sort of spy school organisation. I’m also baffled there’d be religious parts of it even in Norway. Wonder if the Swedish organisation has it too, their website at least highlights that they really value diversity, it’d be strange if they were anal about religion.

Even then, religion seems like such a strange and unrelated thing to chuck in there.

dojan, 1 day ago

Är religion en stor del av våra scoutförbund också? Måste medge att jag är lite paff att jag har lyckats missa att scouterna finns i sverige, så tack för korrigeringen. Vi svenskar är verkligen tokiga i att grunda förbund, föreningar, och folkrörelser så det känns ju rätt rimligt att scouterna skulle finnas här också.

dojan, 1 day ago

I believe we have Christian led organisations here in Sweden as well, but they don’t necessarily push religion as part of their operations. It really depends though. I recall an after-school thing being held at a local church when I was a kid. Other than it taking place in a church from the 1200s, there wasn’t really anything religious about it.

Are the girl scouts also religious? All I’ve ever really heard about the girl scouts is that they sell biscuits, but I assume they engage in the same activities?

dojan, 2 days ago

I don’t understand half of this, but it feels about right.

dojan, 2 days ago

I wonder how much of a bottom line they actually have given how cheap their service is.

dojan, 2 days ago

Oh wow, I had no idea Nord could go that cheap. To me €5 a month felt really inexpensive.

dojan, 2 days ago

Cheers. Network related stuff isn’t my forte so I really have no idea about the costs. I just figured that the moment you start adding a decent amount of users the costs will go up, and €5 seems like a really fair price.

dojan, 2 days ago

Economy of scale?

dojan, 2 days ago

Honestly when it comes to severe crimes the punishments should put them out of business. Yeah some people will lose their jobs, but suddenly there’s a vacuum that can be filled, and it’s not like the expertise is gone. Someone else can start a better company that doesn’t do illegal shit and fill that vacuum.

Isn’t that how capitalism is supposed to work anyway?

dojan, 2 days ago

They just dump the sewage in the lake? No wonder they get algae blooms.

dojan, 2 days ago

Yeah. Farmland generally doesn’t help much either. I’m in Sweden and the baltic sea is basically dead partially due to sewage and farming, and partially due to fishing rules leading to people throwing back fish which subsequently die from the rapid pressure change, leaving more stuff to decompose and suck up all the available oxygen. The oxygenation of the baltic sea is also heavily dependant on storms, and thanks to climate change those have been a bit more wonky.

The problem isn’t necessarily the cyanobacteria themselves, they are toxic, but they do increase the amount of available oxygen. The problem is that when they die, they decompose and the bacteria that break them down use up all the available oxygen, slowly suffocating the sea. Or well, lake in this case.

dojan, 3 days ago

Hahahaha I had forgotten that they use terms like “pure-blood.” Some even go so far as to believe that because they’re unvaccinated their gametes will be in higher demand because they’re “pure.”

dojan, 3 days ago

You’re preaching to the choir. My mother is like this too. She is deep in the conspiracy rabbit hole. Used to work as a nurse, really well travelled too.

It’s bizarre to see her regurgitate q-anon BS when we’re not even in the U.S.

dojan, 4 days ago

They did this to me with Destiny 2 as well. Dragons Dogma II got refunded no questions asked though.

Think playtime plays a factor, though for live-service games I honestly feel like it shouldn’t.

dojan, 4 days ago

Speaking as a life-long lacto-ovo vegetarian who did a ten year stint as a vegan (I’m 30), it’s because there is a subset of the vegan population that’s very gung-ho about their diet and wants to proselytize about it, and no one likes being told what they should eat. When you remark on people’s diets, people tend to get annoyed and defensive about it.

I grew up being told that my food looked yucky, how I can’t call something meatballs since it doesn’t contain meat, how since I don’t eat protein I’ll die, so on, so forth. It got annoying fast, so now I don’t generally discuss my diet unless it makes a contextual sense. e.g. when planning a restaurant outing with people - though to be frank I often just avoid social situations where food plays a role.

I think where the big clashes really happen is when someone has made veganism/eating meat a core part of their identity, having that criticised, however gently that might be, will cause friction and often cause people to double-down on it; even though they may know on some level that the criticism might even be valid. You can see this in the fat pride movement as well.

dojan, 4 days ago

As a life-long vegetarian, this has been my experience as well.

dojan, 3 days ago

I don’t think we view this quite the same way. I don’t see a problem with something being a defining part of someone’s identity, because it’s not up to me to decide how other people ought identify. We all have identities so on some level everyone identifies with something. Just because say, you and I don’t get how diet can be an significant part of someone’s identity, doesn’t invalidate it being significant for someone else. It just means that we haven’t lived the same life and that’s fine.

In a way we do have to accept other people’s identities, because what else can we do? We can’t force change on others, all we can really do is acknowledge the situation and then choose whether or not we want to continue interacting with them.

It doesn’t really get problematic until you have someone that does try to force things on others. My mother was one of those militant vegans, and she lost a lot of friends for it. She’s the reason I am vegetarian, and the reason I was vegan for a long time. Back then I never had much choice in either regard.

Being vegan wasn’t even really a defining part of her identity. Her trying to force it on others was also less about trying to change others, and more about trying to place herself in some sort of morally superior position to them. She pretended to care about their health and the environment - hell on some level maybe she genuinely did care - but it really was more about making herself look and feel better about herself because she was (and is) a deeply insecure person pretending to be otherwise.

As a final aside; what I’ve written above is what I consciously believe, but I’m obviously not an infallible person. I’m an extremely cynical, nihilistic, and definitely a judgmental person. I try my best not to be, and to see things from the perspective of others, but some days I succeed better than others.

dojan, 4 days ago

One decided to spontaneously hike and fell off a cliff. One was in an unfortunate drunk driving accident. One got hit by an Airbus engine. etc. etc.

dojan, 4 days ago

Why was Taylor Swift not in the Oval Office during 9/11? 🤔🤔🤔

dojan, 4 days ago

Oh, does the mouse have to be alive? Or could you just carry around a mummified mouse?