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I make art that’s totally mine because I did it through AI. imgur.com/a/Rhgi0OC

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pelespirit,
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Honestly, I think they’re trying to send the masses to space and keep the earth for themselves.

pelespirit,
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The worst part is, I have no idea what generation OP is from.

pelespirit, (edited )
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She has russian ties. Also, she worked for trump.

pbs.org/…/nikki-haleys-campaign-says-she-misspoke…

edit: I added more info.

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Won’t the amount of users using meta effectively be a ddos attack on the smaller instances though?

Also, why is meta freaking out so hard about instances defederating if it isn’t an issue for them? I haven’t seen this much gaslighting since 2015 & 2019 days.

pelespirit,
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The content creators here are mostly former reddit content creators, we’re sick of corporations abusing our good will.

pelespirit,
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A FOR PROFIT company blocked their users from using helpful tools is not the same and you know it.

pelespirit,
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What are the benefits?

pelespirit,
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that account’s instance only syncs it with Threads

Which could still be millions?

Unless I missed something, they’re not. I’m pretty sure they haven’t commented on the topic whatsoever.

LMAO, I don’t think you missed something. There sure are a LOT of people that really want meta here with no benefits listed and only vague reasons why the other is wrong, that sound a lot like sway techniques. There are a few libertarians too, but mostly the first one.

pelespirit,
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I think we should encourage politicians, governments and public figures to either self host or use non-threads instances. That way, Threads cannot easily shut off AP support or screw around too badly or their own content will decline.

Yes to this and defederate as well.

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Threads already has 160 million users.

That’s weird, these numbers aren’t taken into account on that graph: Threads’ user base has plummeted more than 80%. Meta’s app ended July with just 8 million daily active users.

pelespirit,
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What are the benefits of letting Meta stay federated?

pelespirit,
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You know a lot about the infrastructure of activity pub.

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I hate and don’t trust Meta, so the main benefit for me would be the ability to follow Threads users from my nonprofit, ad free, tracker free, Mastodon account I already have. I don’t want an account with Meta.

That is the first actual benefit I’ve seen, lol. I won’t be following any threads users, so it wouldn’t be a benefit. I also don’t know a single soul that is a threads user either.

AFAIK, there is only one Threads.net

That’s not how it works. When you’re federated together, you get a copy of every post on your server. Someone else said that that can be avoided, but I doubt threads will do anything in the other instance’s favor unless they get something out of it.

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I think you’re sincere about wanting to federate. I don’t agree at all and I think you’re being naive about them trying to take over, there is a shit ton of astroturfing going on in these threads, but wanting the fediverse to grow isn’t a bad thing…

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Right, we’re agreeing. That could still be millions even if the 160 million isn’t true.

pelespirit,
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We have over a million users here, it’s likely that 100s are going to follow 100s. That’s not that many.

pelespirit,
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and it might be less of a waste of time to focus on how to ensure the protocol itself works against bad faith actors gaining too much power

Meta is one of the worst, if not the worst, bad actors on the internet. That would be like inviting serial killers into your home so you’ll know how to handle a loud neighbor next time they’re loud.

And like I said above, it’s not like there isn’t potential benefits to that.

Okay, name one besides an influx of too many users and no content.

Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads

I think it’s pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change...

pelespirit,
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Nope, I’m fine with small companies trying to make the fediverse better. Meta is full on enshitification, why wouldn’t they bring a new form that we can’t predict over here?

pelespirit,
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What does Meta get out of this?

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No really, what do they get out of it?

pelespirit,
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They can’t have it both ways, is it 100 million and amazing or is it small and needing content?

pelespirit,
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Totally get it, then go easy on the posters or post one for every negative comment.

pelespirit,
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Your logic seems to be:

  • I want all of threads content - Which we won’t get because they can just look at us, not interact with us currently. Also, what content? It’s going to be pretty bad.
  • I want all of the users to come in -Our instances are small and can be overwhelmed easily. They will do that easily just looking at it, it might end up being a constant ddos.

My logic

  • provide more content for people to look at for a year or two and then think about letting the companies like Meta in, who are known to be evil
  • we don’t know how they plan to fuck with the fediverse, they are planning it though
pelespirit,
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Do you really want to be the one testing how they’re going to fuck with the system? This instance didn’t update to .19 because they wanted the bugs out. I don’t think we know yet how much and how hard meta is going to try and use our system and/or break it.

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