snek

snek, 29 days ago

In Sweden, there are cracks in the system, especially if you are homeless but an illegal immigrant or from Romania (a common example). There are services but a big hurdle is having to have a legal personnummer or coordination number (though I’m told that doesn’t work for everything). In student towns, lots of homelessness is also among students. It’s even more difficult if you are a drug user. A lot of times the only shelters in the area are offered by churches and non profits which don’t have a large capacity and serve on a first-come-first-get basis.

I wish they would expand this to cover more vulnerable groups. I would love to see Housing First applied in Sweden. Since the recent inflation crisis, I notice more homeless people.

snek, 29 days ago

So which communities in the ml instance have such views?

snek, 29 days ago

If you make a claim about tankies but never back but beyond the claim of personal experinece, then you at least owe it to yourself to understand that you may be wrong.

snek, 28 days ago

A collection of posts, perhaps already deleted and in the mod log? Any users you have personally seen and reported simping for China that the mods continue to have around anyway? Mod policies publicly making this okay? A meme page in love with toltalitarianism?

It doesn’t have to be a scientific study… just any kind of evidence other than “trust me bro”.

Don’t ignore your eyes, but also don’t be so damn pretentious. Show us what you are seeing.

snek, 1 month ago

Here in Sweden, firing an employee for giving an opinion on company policy is illegal. Just look at the Tesla union wars.

snek, 1 month ago

Just because communism also sucks does not mean that capitalism has not ruined our lives.

snek, 1 month ago

They can be fired for misconduct, yes, What makes you think protests or giving opinons on work related mtter, possibly supoorted by a union, would be interpreted as “misconduct”? Can you give an example of a case like that where misconduct was having an issue with selling products to war criminals or similar?

snek, 1 month ago

Can you show that in Sweden?

If not maybe you could stop pretending to misunderstand a simple fact.

snek, 1 month ago

Can you give me the exact law that says this would be the case in Sweden?

snek, 1 month ago

Fair grounds for dismissal means that an employee is behaving in an undesirable way and is aware that the behaviour is not acceptable. As an employer, you are therefore obliged to make the employee aware that you consider their behaviour to be improper.

Misconduct, such as failure to cooperate, incompetence and poor work performance, can be fair grounds for dismissal on grounds of misconduct.

So yes, again we agree, there is a law of misconduct. Can you demonstrate any reasonable example where an employer in Sweden was fired on such grounds because they protest peacefully against their own company making an unethical deal with a questionable government or the like?

Also your tone is just shit.

snek, 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

We both agree that misconduct is a thing. We disageew on what miscobduct means. I hope that makes it clear.

Have you read that article btw?

I am not sure what exactly you are asking me to show… in Sweden (as said in the link you posted and as I already know by actually working in Sweden for years) is that you have to warn workers of msiconduct and they can appeal your decision if it’s dumb as fuck (like what Google did). Do you have any reason at all to believe that workers in Sweden would be fired in a similar way? I don’y think so. This shit does not happen here, and there are mechanisms that give employees and unions power to stop it.

Like read this shit:

Google fired workers who willingly left the sit-in when asked by company officials, and also fired some workers who “had just stopped by to chat,” Hasan Ibraheem, one of the Google workers who was arrested and fired, said Monday during a news conference.

so do you have any case whatsoever that shows that this shit would fly at a Swedish company? One where it was legally challenged at least? If no, then what exactly is your point?

PS: sorry can’t be bothered to fix spelling lol. Your tone was so crap that it even put me off trying to explain my point. You cannot fire people in Sweden for doing whay those employees at Google did.

snek, 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

I want to say I understand your point. You sre saying misconduct laws are vague and that allows employers to fire employees for BS. You also seem to think those Google employees committed some kind of ‘misconduct’. I disagree.

The issue in my opinion is that you are basing it on the law sounding vague… and ignoring the part where employees would receive warnings that first and foremost makes it clear to them that such a thing is regarded as misconduct and could lead to.termination… and you are ignoring that in is able to appeal the decision with the help of a union representative. Then you are ignoring all free speech laws and the fact that this is not a common culture or occurrence in Sqeden .

I work in Sweden and have read the law a million times. I also raised problems at work and challenged authority and was never fired nor sent to HR or anything like that. There are laws in Sweden that act as a safety net to prevent employers from firing a person for such trivial shit. Has this ever happened? If no one seems to interpret this as misconduct in Sweden, then where is your claim coming from?

So allow me to rephrase the question to you in a more civil way: aside from the “law being vague”, do you have reason(s) to believe that staging a sitdown as protest in Sweden or having coffee and a chat with people staging a reasonable peaceful and coordinated protest in Swede would get you fired?

This may be the case for some European countries (I have no idea and won’t speak our of my asa about places I don’t know much about) but not Sweden. If you never worked here, then you may not understand how Swedish law and unions work exactly with cases like this. I am quite thankful to live in this kind of society where my employer cannot fire me just because they would rather fund the literal mutilation of thousands of children and be complicit in international human rights violations.

And for the example you cited: as someone who has worked in Stockholm specifically and works there now: no, that would not be grounds to fire you, and you can appeal by law and get help from your union representative.

If you are unaware of Swedish law, I would advice that you avoid generalizing European laws to Sweden

snek, 1 month ago

Seems to me that the problem is bankers. Not the average Joe

snek, 1 month ago

I think you misread Swedish law and are (on purpose?) misreading what happened at Google. I have nothing more to say other than the above in my previous comments. Have a nice day.

snek, 1 month ago

Creepy to you, sure. But let me add this:

Should it be illegal? No, and good luck enforcing that.

snek, 1 month ago

Lol you’d be surprised…isn’t this one of those things people would do in private but never admit in public (because of people likr you getting all touchy and creeped out by it)?

snek, 1 month ago

I think anyone claiming otherwisw would be lying most likely.

snek, 1 month ago

You can feel whatever you want.

snek, 1 month ago

Everyone has imagined someone naked at some point. Do you feel the same? How do you feel about yourself?

snek, 1 month ago

Why does it have to be some sweeping statement? And… are you like butthurt? I could not help but notice.

snek, 1 month ago

Big fat fucking lol. I asked you a question to move the convo forward, because maybe you read some kind of study or something… you reaponded instead with some snarky shit. Then you didn’t like my snarky response to your snarky response.

I mean… dude.

snek, 1 month ago

Lol that person can meet up if they like and I will call them butthurt in person.

snek, 1 month ago

I’m sorry if you are having a bad day.