youpie,
@youpie@lemmy.emphisia.nl avatar

why?

Kagami,

When a leftist, or progressive says “tankie” it is different from what the mainstream media perceives. It (tankie) indicates someone who is overzealously supportive of non-Western imperialist countries such as Russia and China and denies their atrocities.

Also, the term developed from the tanks deplored by the user to invade Hungary and denote people who supported such action.

VoidCrow,
@VoidCrow@lemmy.world avatar

Baaaased

CPCsStrongestWumao,

seeing you guys flood our site (made by MLs, the "tankies" you refer to) and then saying that we need to be kicked out is hilarious

boopinsnoots,

I don't know what tankies are and at this point I'm too afraid to ask

JohnDClay,

Usually people who advocate military communism, such as defending tiananmen square, Stalin, and more. Basically it's usually the belief that anything a government professing to be communist does must be good.

piezoelectron,
@piezoelectron@sopuli.xyz avatar

I should emphasize that a lot of pro-Western outlets and commentators have recently weaponised the term to discredit any diverging points of view re-the Ukraine War. So someone like Cornel West would be a "tankie" by this point of view, which is actually kind of disgusting in how dishonest it is.

Silverstrings,
@Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Diverging points of view? Like what, that Ukraine should just surrender and let itself be conquered?

cat,

b b b b b based

tdfischer,

based

moss,
@moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

queue,

Based mod team

moss,
@moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I do my best :)

cuchilloc,

removed by mod rule

dsmaster7173,

holy shit they kicked the tankies out of 196

nunyunuymi,

based

fae,

based. also hiii moss :3

moss,
@moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hiiii :33 howru

fae,

im good! glad u got made a mod here as well!

moss,
@moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I am too! I love contributing to communities that I like!!

Sekoia,

This post has literally 6 times the comments of the next most-comments post, jesus. Wonder what could have triggered this!

NoTime,
Silverstrings,
@Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No one is suggesting that the states the authoritarian communists replaced were good or functional, just that they failed to actually uplift and make people's lives better. There's nothing to admire about one oppressive state being replaced by another.

XiaoHei,
Silverstrings,
@Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Oh so 'line go up' is suddenly a valid way of determining a country's quality of life now? Guess America must be a paradise then.

merpthebirb,
BarrelAgedBoredom,

Life expectancy in the US is currently dropping for the first time in decades. "line go up" isn't always a valid way of determining quality of life, but in the instance of life expectancy, I would say it is. Also, America is getting worse in basically every metric we can use to measure quality of life. Is "line go down" not a valid way of assessing quality of life either?

Plus_a_Grain_of_Salt,

You beat me to the punch regarding the US life expectancy rate lol, but I kinda agree with both of you right now. Life expectancy can imply quality of certain aspects of life; like medical care and availability, but it isn't the end all be all to a quality life. To me it's just a factor, not a determining factor.

flashgnash,

Literally just made an account and am just a Reddit pleb. What exactly are tankies and what is 196? Guessing it's a Lemmy server but otherwise unsure

asukii,

196 is the server you're in right now, tankies is a slang term for the more authoritarian types of communists (like Stalinists and such)

18650,

can we please not let the discord brainrot spread here? this is a post on the lemmy.blahaj.zone server, in the 196 community.

Rhabuko,

Tankies are far left Marxists/Communists that are so anti- USA/West that they gladly defend almost anything that opposes the USA. Even authoritarian states like Russia and China. To be clear not every Communist is a Tankie through. And if you critizises on of this countries for horrible stuff, the Tankies will see you automatically as a USA chill. Because, from my online interactions with them, they see the world in black and white.

shadowscale,

196 is a shitpost sub where you must post something when you vist

a tankie is a authoritarian that believes they're a communist. they support the imperialist invasion of Ukraine, and they deny the tianaman square massacre, where the CCP ran tanks over college students protesting the authoritarian government. they deny a bunch of other atrocities as well, these are the only two i can think of right now.

a lot of tankies are going to be posting an essay by Engles that defends authoritarianism, asserting that authoritarianism is compatible with communism. which, while sure, isn't ideal because one person having power always ends in genocide. well, it doesn't end in genocide, genocide just... happens under authoritarianism.

breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

To quote wikipedia

Tankie is a pejorative label for communists, particularly Stalinists, who support the authoritarian tendencies of Marxism–Leninism or, more generally, authoritarian states associated with Marxism–Leninism in history. The term was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.

TanteRegenbogen,

Why are Blanquists even in the Fediverse? The Fediverse is about decentralization while Blanquists are for the extreme opposite.

Cynosure,

One factor is that the main devs of lemmy are marxist-lennists, so they are more lax in regards to tankie content. Another factor is that people fled to lemmygrad once genzedong was banned from reddit.

pruneaue,

Ya the genzedong ban made lemmy be lemmygrad unless you blocked the instance for a month or two.

Big_Farto,

I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

GarbageShootAlt2,

Meanwhile anarchist organizing doesn't have cops, it has Agents of Community Defense who definitely aren't cops!

I have nothing against anarchists, but you need to see past slogans to be anything but a useful idiot to neoliberals.

Big_Farto,

I mean any person or entity that enforces oppressive laws is a bastard. The government of China is far from some sort of benevolent state.

phthalocyanin,

they yearn for the glorious people's boot

nunyunuymi,

500 years ago these mfs were the pro monarchy serfs

1988Passive_Browsing,

300 Comments already. Oh my god! Lol.

BalconyPhantom,

Vaush moment

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