Thranduil,

Mother tell the children not to check the temps. Tell the children not to read my books what they mean what they say.

Sorry i read Danzig so I though of the band

Welt,

Glenn was named after Gdansk, not the other way round 🤘

MystikIncarnate,

I’ll grant that farenheit has merit, but for me, the foot/inches distance works a bit better for casual measurements, and stuff that doesn’t have to be very precise.

Beyond maybe someone’s height, I’d rather work in metric. I’m also very much in favor of celsius and I still have trouble converting between the temperature scales. I grew up with temps in degrees C, and height and some sort distances in feet/inches. IDK, I’m weird.

The date thing drives me nuts though.

Fogle,

I’ve adopted year month day as the superior sorting method

MystikIncarnate,

Correct.

ISO 8601.

xkcd.com/1179/

ShaggySnacks,

This is the only way. DD-MM or MM-DD is confusing when it’s something like 12-03-2023. Is it December 3 or March 12?

bgh251f2,

It’s confusing because of USA, if they applied what everyone in the world uses it wouldn’t really be a problem.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Imperial is only good at measuring temperature, everything else can be scrapped.

recarsion,

Idk, 0 being the melting point and 100 the boiling point of water just seems to make much more sense to me than whatever the hell the Fahrenheit scale is doing

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

0 and 100 only at sea level.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Metric boiling system can be simplified to boiled or not boiled. Also the difference between 13°C and 16°C is huge in Fahrenheit while it looks like a mere 3 points, it’s actually a difference between cold and comfortable not-so warm.

Fahrenheit is built for humans, not your kettle

vaionko,

The freezing poit being 0 is convenient though. I can look at the thernometer, and if there’s a negative sign there’s probably ice outside

recarsion,

I don’t see how 55 vs 60 Fahrenheit captures the difference better

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

55-60 vs 12-15

Abnorc,

This is really not a problem with Celsius. It’s a result of us being used to Fahrenheit. We could probably switch and not have any issues after a month or so if we really wanted to.

Eufalconimorph,

Mostly joking, but Farenheit is % hot outside.

0°F is 0% hot. Jacket, pants, boots, scarf, etc.

30°F is 30% hot. Shorts, but with boots & an unzipped jacket.

60°F is 60% hot. Shorts, short sleeves, & sandals.

80°F is 80% hot. AC recommended.

100°F is 100% hot. AC or you’ll melt.

120°F is Phoenix, Arizona, a city which should not exist and a temperature which should not exist.

xX_fnord_Xx,

Beer was the only drink you could get in prole pubs. The proles were supposed not to drink gin, though in practice they could get hold of it easily enough. The game of darts was in full swing again, and the knot of men at the bar had begun talking about lottery tickets. Winston’s presence was forgotten for a moment. There was a deal table under the window where he and the old man could talk without fear of being overheard. It was horribly dangerous, but at any rate there was no telescreen in the room, a point he had made sure of as soon as he came in.

"E could ‘a drawed me off a pint,’ grumbled the old man as he settled down behind a glass. 'A 'alf litre ain’t enough. It don’t satisfy. And a ‘ole litre’s too much. It starts my bladder running. Let alone the price.’

‘You must have seen great changes since you were a young man,’ said Winston tentatively.

The old man’s pale blue eyes moved from the darts board to the bar, and from the bar to the door of the Gents, as though it were in the bar-room that he expected the changes to have occurred.

‘The beer was better,’ he said finally. ‘And cheaper! When I was a young man, mild beer – wallop we used to call it – was fourpence a pint. That was before the war, of course.’

-1984

thorbot,

Another fucking imperial versus metric meme, never seen this before. Most of us use metric already, shut the fuck up

Zetta,

I switched to metric for all my personal projects right around the time I started doing any sort of project that had a form of measuring. Metric is better full stop

4lan,

As an American I approve this comment.

I’ve been into 3D printing for a few years and it has forced me into metric. Now my brain works in millimeters and it’s way better

Our countries insistence on using imperial is evidence of our resistance to change. Even the creators of the system have abandoned it

Rosco,

Americans saying that F° is a more human and relatable temperature measurement, how many times have you been to Dantzig in the 18th century again? Do you even know where Dantzig is? Because i’ve seen water freezing quite a few times before.

PieMePlenty,

I thought 0F was the freezing point of brine.

Rosco,

Nope, it’s -6°F, or -21,1°C.

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think the two points missing from most debates are

  1. The imperial system does a damn good job at measuring things the way a human would. A foot is roughly the length of a big foot. A single degree farenheit is just big enough that you could guesstimate it with enough practice. If the temperatures are negative, you dump sand on the roads instead of salt.
  2. It’s like seven units of measurement in a trenchant. You never have to convert gallons to cubic miles. You never have to convert from dots to angstoms, and nobody has ever had to convert the surveyors mile to the nautical mile. It feels schizophrenic because claiming it’s one singular system is like saying Italian, French, and Portuguese languages are all regional dialects of Europeanese.

My point isn’t “it’s not a bug, it’s a feature”, I’m saying for the average non-scientist there may be a logical reason why we like it so much

kaffiene,

Yeah. You’re used to it

turmacar,

No no. The rest of the world is constantly out of sorts on what common measurements are. It’s like how monolingual non-English-speaking people are constantly aware they’re not speaking the natural language of English.

/s

kool_newt,

interesting take

4lan,

Lol is it?

Think of all the different numbers you have to divide different units in our system by to convert.

numbers are base 10 for every single society on earth. Metric units always scale by 10. It’s literally perfect for how we interpret numbers

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

*every single western society

doctorcrimson,

If the USA wants a system of measurement based entirely on water for temperature and mass, and distance as one millionth of the distance from the equator to the pole, then I’m sure they’ll call.

4lan,

How many meters are in 13.2 km? 13,200

How many feet are in 13.2 mi?
Break out a calculator

Why is my country so arrogant that they will argue for an objectively worse measurement system?

doctorcrimson, (edited )

There are 5,280 feet in a Mile


<span style="color:#323232;">5,280 * 13.2 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">= 5,280 * 10 + 5,280 * 3 + 5,280 * 0.2
</span><span style="color:#323232;">= 5,280 * 10 + 5,280 * 3 + 5,280 / 5
</span><span style="color:#323232;">= 52,800 + 15,840 + 1,056
</span><span style="color:#323232;">= 69,696 nice
</span>

I’m sorry you suck at math to the extent that this is considered absurdly difficult for you. Sucks to Suck.

4lan,

I’m going to pretend that that result was completely intentional lol

EternalNicodemus,

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 😡😡😡😡

Candybar121,

Communists.

HiddenLayer5,

1776-07-04 gang

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

1776-07-04

Sorting algos all agree.

regdog,

I hate how wrong, yet accurate that is.

Sosialdemokrat,

amerikanarane

Thaumiel,

Hard agree with metric for the most part. I forever stand by Fahrenheit for temperatures you experience, and Celsius for science. I don’t want to have to use decimals in my everyday life, but that’s just me

And really, K is the ideal temperature unit for scientific purposes, since there’s actually a hard starting point, rather than picking an arbitrary state change at an arbitrary pressure of a kind of arbitrary compound.

adriaan,

The measurement for temperatures you experience really does not matter outside of what you’re used to, do you think non-Americans get confused about how cold 6°C or 23°C is?

Squirrel,
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

Temperature scale doesn’t matter in daily life, so I hate that there’s always this argument about which scale makes more sense. Knowing what a given temperature feels like is no more difficult than remembering that water freezes at 32 degrees fahrenheit and boils at 212.

I’m all for a system based around multiples of 10, but for temperature, even Celsius isn’t done that way, other than 0 and 100.

HiddenLayer5,

Which is why Kelvin is superior.

shrugal,

Every temperature scale in our usual range is pretty arbitrary at the end of the day, but you have to admit that the fixpoints of Fahrenheit are particularly useless in everyday life.

TheSealStartedIt,

Americans always say they prever Fahrenheit over Celsius because the measurment is more exact. Also Americans: "The weather is in the fifties today.“

They just like to find excuses why they prefer the things that they are used to. It’s human nature.

nameisnotimportant,
@nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t want to use decimals in my everyday life

Don’t you use decimals for prices already?

not_woody_shaw,

They do but they don’t matter because of sales tax and tips.

Thaumiel,

Yup. Being at the store is just a guessing game until the tax gets added. And then I just swipe the card lol

Jarix,

Celcius. Water freezes at 0 and boils at 100

Pretty good frame of reference

ElderWendigo,

You forgot about the arbitrary “standard” pressure part and missed the point by a light second.

Jarix,

I didnt forget, i said pretty good frame of reference because it didnt feel necessary given the context of people using it for real world everyday things. Which is typically at “fuck it, close enough” for most people to not have to worry about

If i said perfect, excellent, amazing, the best then i might concede your point, but i didnt so i dont however correct you are that there are other factors that can change the points of reference

4lan,

Especially considering we are water

bigschnitz,

It gets way easier for “feel” of weather too! In most habitable places in the world, 0°C is around as cold as you’ll regularly see (also a handy number for when you need to watch for ice). Similarly, 40°C is around as high as most habitable places get, also a nice easy number to work with.

In fahrenheit, these numbers are 30 and 105, I mean I can get rounding down for ease of use but you’re moving the reference points a lot to make it 25 to 100 for what you usually see and that’s certainly not more intuitive than 0-40

SimplyATable,

Consider it as a general scale from 0-100. First third is freezing, second third is alright, the rest is kinda bleh. Above or below the scale, take caution when you’re outside

Titou,

USA’s measurment system dosn’t make any senses.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

That’s medieval units for you. At least they use the same units in the whole country, which is progress compared to how it used to be in the rest of the medieval world. They just didn’t take the last step to modernity.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Shut up. If you don’t know how many buckets there are to a hogshead, that’s not our fault.

Titou,

Smartest statesian

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

My 69°F room temperature disagrees with you.

ShaggySnacks,

Winner, right here.

4lan,

It’s not even our system. We adopted the system of our oppressors that kept it long after they abandoned it.

Imperial is not American, some might call it unAmerican

Titou,

Yeo but you decided to kept it

Woht24,

I hate it

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