The thing that gets me, is that since 2018, I can confidently say that my wage has not even nearly tripled… It’s barely even ~40% higher, and I’ve been on a fairly steady upward path, but the fucking McChicken has increased by almost triple.
I could not give fewer shits about the numerical prices. It’s the relative price that annoys me. A trip to McDonald’s (or realistically, anywhere) is that much more of a percentage of my paycheque.
And the icing on this shit-filled cake is that productivity has been on a steady incline the entire time. So we’re doing more work, for the same wages, and prices continue to inflate.
Kind of hate posts like this. Yes! Inflation is happening and bad. And yes! The McChicken (and a lot of fast food value options) have soared in price in recent years. But trying to take that and frame it as “look at this… it’s so obvious the government is lying to us and overall inflation is actually over 100%” Is just ignorant nonsense and it tends to play into conspiratorial minds who don’t actually have any experience in economics or data collection.
You can hate the federal government all you want. Really. I totally get it. But they are unfortunately really good at data collection.
I get what you are saying, but think about it like this. If all you ate was McChickens then food inflation for you specifically was almost 300%. So even though “real” inflation was lower, you are still paying 3 times the amount you did before for your food.
See I get that, and that’s absolutely fine. There’s just a gigantic difference between saying “hmm, it seems like inflation for ‘budget’ items used by poorer individuals has gone up at a higher rate than other items, let me see if I can find some info on that” and “nope! The government is lying, actually! I can tell from the vibes.”
One is very solution and truth oriented and the other is impatience that only sets them up to fall for further conspiracy theories and emotional arguement
Can you provide… anything to actually substantiate that? Maybe some food items like fast food value options have gone up 100%. Maybe some homes in particular, extremely high demand areas have gone up.
When you make these gigantic sweeping claims with nothing but vibes and the McChicken to point to it just feels like bad faith
Sorry Sealion, I’m not wasting my life to show you stats you can easily get off of the internet. There are literally 5 very high profile search results that will give you historical food inflation values.
You just want to waste my time because no matter what source I give you, you will find an irrelevant detail that lets you shift the goalposts again and again, and I’ve been through that dance non-figurativley hundreds of times.
The increase in food costs is obvious to literally anyone who does their own grocery shopping. The fact you don’t understand this either means you are being deliberately obstinate, or indeed, do not do your own grocery shopping.
In either case neither types of people deserve a moment more of my time.
Since ‘everything’ is an average of all purchases, it pays to point out that necessities like food and housing has gone up significantly higher than upper class luxuries.
Because it is, and always has been, class warfare.
I’m not sure the original post was referring specifically to the inflation of the dollar but it does highlight a real phenomenon in which large corporations are shrinking their product and their workforce, yet prices increase exponentially. I’m not arguing that McDonald’s sandwich price changes are reflective of the economy either, but as one of the worst offenders on the planet in regards to corporate greed, there’s no question “inflation” only accounts for a small portion of the increase,
Actually McDonald’s sandwich prices are literally an economic measure. The big Mac has specifically been used by economists to measure purchase power over time
Do you understand what the overall inflation figure means though? You can’t just say “no, that figure about overall inflation in the economy isn’t true, my double whopper supreme is way more than that!!”
Wasn’t Lemmy supposed to be the somewhat “smarter” Reddit where people had taken a basic stats class at some point in their life? I just really don’t get this thinking.
🤔 Oh, I get it. You’re one of “those types.” The type that’ll find any way to dispute anything that tells us something is wrong.
As if the overall inflation figure and other obscure, arcane bullshit changes the fact that a McChicken tripled in price, which is something that deeply and demonstrably affects ALL of our lives whether we eat fast food or not.
No just one side tends to have very complex figures backed by large independent teams of experts in the field and the other has McChicken prices and vibes.
If the other side had like… any real data I would be on board with it
Then I’ll spell it out for you: your complaint is moot because what actually matters to people is the price listed in this meme, not blatant attempts at distorting what we can clearly see happening in front of our eyes.
We’re suffering hyperinflation and no amount of dishonesty and manipulation from you is going to change that. You want it to not be true? Petition McDonald’s to lower their prices.
One fast food chain might have increased the price of one sandwich, that doesn’t mean “the price of everything” has “at least” doubled. The price of everything weighed together has increased 24%. We monitor these things scientifically and consistently across time to get as accurate a number as is possible.
You can’t refute that by extrapolating the price of one sandwich from one chain in one cherry picked time frame.
Definitely. I really don’t like posts like this, as they really just feed into a false, conspiratorial narrative wherein somehow every single federal agency and employee, no matter how bureaucratic, monitored, and independent - is under the direct control of whoever happens to be the sitting president at the time.
It’s just fundamentally really not how government (or data collection) works, and it reeks of that dangerous “midwit” territory wherein people feel like they can cite one or two examples of the data seeming off or the government being a bit opaque and they think they’re experts on the subject.
You end up creating a society in which people can’t trust/believe basic facts because everyone keeps convincing eachother that only the vibes of a situation matter
Yeah that 24% may very well be true for the average of “the price of everything”, but food is definitely closer to a 100% increase, so especially people with lower income will be closer to experiencing inflation of up to a hundred percent and not “just” 24.
I wonder how much of this is the fault of food delivery apps. I’ve heard multiple people who run a small restaurant or food cart complaining that those apps as part of their terms/contract wouldn’t let you price up your menu items in-app to cover the % cut they take. during pandemic when app orders become the majority of your business, it makes sense to price up the items to include uber’s cut across the board and just incorporate it into your cost model.
I find it hard to believe McDonald’s was losing money on the dollar menu items. Considering they owned the entire process from factory, shipping, to restaurant. Back in the 90’s even I know the fountain drinks alone were insanely profitable.
They might not “lose money” per McChicken sold but if they’re not gaining a certain dollar amount per hour/week/month/etc that particular McDonalds restaurant might lose money over time.
Take two burger places, one of them makes 20 cents on every burger, while the other makes a dollar and 20 cents on every burger. Even if the latter one gets a bit less traffic it’s absolutely going to out perform the former.
This can suck but… if can also be the reality of the situation. A sandwich (even a small one) being a single dollar is likely way below McDonalds usual margin, and unless you’re demanding an immediate People’s Revolution of fast food restaurants they’re going to run the numbers and make the most profitable locations they can.
I mean, I worked there. I was there when the beany baby craze was in full effect. The profit margins even back then were huge since they control the entire supply line. Never thought I’d see the day people come out to be apologists for McDonalds.
Why I’m getting downvoted because a video (that wasn’t linked) had someone talking about a Yum! branded company (Taco Bell) whos profits tanked in 2016 (from $13B to $1.89B) mentioned McDonalds… who’s not seen any sort of comparable problems as based on the links I provided… is beyond me.
It’s not really “shilling for a company” to understand that price increases for products (especially “value” products) do not often perfectly follow country-wide overall inflation percentages
If I recall correctly, taco bell started the value menu war but they made items that were designed to be priced at one dollar. Burger King, Wendys, and McDonald’s discounted existing items that cut into their previous prices in response.
Inflation is calculated off of the cost of some particular basket of goods, and tends not to be even across those goods.
Yeah, if you eat a lot of corporate fast food, prices have skyrocketed recently. At a rate that far outpaces the local pizzeria and Chinese restaurant down the street, or the cost of chicken and eggs from the grocery store.
Not even 15 minutes ago I was in a McDonald’s drive-thru. The only thing I ordered was a Single Cheeseburger, the cost was $3.59…. I told them never mind and came home and made pasta instead. Absolutely ridiculous that a single patty burger from there could cost so much.
I am and old millennial and have pretty much considered my wife and I somewhat upper middle class. We never paid attention to grocery prices, took a vacation every year and were able to put away money for retirement. And while I am fortunate enough to still be doing well, that comfort and buffer we had has all but dissappeared in the pandemic.
I was in Cincinnati a long time ago and they have this insane and awesome (in the true sense of the word) supermarket called Jungle Jim’s and they had kangaroo meat, but I didn’t trust the hotel freezer, so I didn’t buy it. I regret it now, although I don’t eat meat anymore. I don’t know, maybe I’d make an exception just once just to try kangaroo. It would be very hard to resist.
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