elb,
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I really like the idea of . However, the available software systems just do NOT do it for me. My smart thermostat has been blinking that it cannot connect to my wi-fi for weeks, my is out-of-date because updating it is painful, my Z-Wave adapter is currently not functioning properly because somehow the adapter stack can't talk to it, ...

This is all a joke.

grimmy,
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@elb Does your HA stuff have some weird dependency? I update mine constantly and the only issue is that i have to reboot it some times after the update for stuff to show up.

paarth,
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@grimmy @elb tbh updating has never been more complicated for me than docker compose pull && docker compose up -d

elb,
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@paarth @grimmy I'm glad for you that you didn't have to deal with any interesting configurations.

elb,
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@grimmy I've been running HASS for years, and I frequently have to change dependencies or configurations for zigbee, z-wave, various other integrations, ... Not every update, for sure, but ultra I read the update docs carefully, I'll be surprised a few times a year when an update is breaking or requires a lot of extra work. I therefore don't update automatically, which means update sessions take even longer to walk through the versions.

grimmy,
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@elb ah gotcha. I'm not nearly that complicated. Although I need to update frigate before I can update its integration.

elb,
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@grimmy My HASS has a fair number of integrations, but I feel like they're all the absolutely most popular kind: Matt, Zigbee, Z-Wave, etc. I do have a few tired to a particular product (CT thermostat, for example), and one of those died and never came back a couple of years ago, but missing it's stuff I'd expect to Just Work.

The father they go down deprecating and removing declarative configuration, the more trouble I have.

nohn,
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elb,
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@nohn Wow, that conversation is ... painful. "It's not a breaking change, it's a backwards incompatible change." ????

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