box464,
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So it looks like I will begin a journey into and ultimately . Any tips for a small dev crew with a background starting up? Licensing / usage gotchas also welcome.

ragnarokonline,

@box464 If your company is going to run an org (as opposed to you being an ISV), know that the license structure is confusing on purpose.

Also know that license prices are highly subject to negotiation. I’d say that per every 100 full license users, I’d aim for a $50 drop in license price, and for every 50 platform users, I’d aim for a $10 license price drop. These numbers are based on Sales/Service cloud usage.

stevefenton,
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@box464 My biggest takeaway from working with Salesforce is that when the client hits their usage limit, every other supplier will blame you, whether or not it's your fault 😜

box464,
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@stevefenton Yeah usage limits has me concerned. Is there an API usage cap per client?

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@box464 I could be wrong, but I think it's the number of seats multiplied by a number (like 20 seats x 1000 calls = 20,000 calls per month).

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box464,
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@stevefenton Very helpful, thank you! Yep makes me nervous. Of course I have no idea what our usage would be like yet. But now I have the formulas when I figure it out!

stevefenton,
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@box464 Yeah. We kept our usage super low quite easily. But your client will keep adding other stuff from the marketplace that uses it up, so you'll end up on the hook for their over-enthusiasm :)

Definitely plan for how your app will gracefully handle the situation where the limits are gone.

judisohn,
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@box464 What kind of projects do you expect to do? For what kind of customers with what problems to solve?

It’s not about the technology it’s what you do with it. Salesforce is an extremely large ecosystem of apps, clouds, licenses, APIs, etc.

For small shops (I work at small one too) I think it’s important to pick your lane and specialize. Impossible to cover it all.

box464,
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@judisohn We are a 501c6 non profit association. I know there are shells around salesforce specific to associations, but wanted to look at salesforce itself first. Wrong route? I should clarify, my team is small, but the association is large..120k members and growing. Conferences, memberships, various subscription products, auto renewals, all the good stuff.

judisohn,
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@box464 Nonprofits are my jam. :-) Started in 2006 including 8 years at Salesforce proper, focused on nonprofit.

Salesforce doesn’t have anything specific for Associations as a license but you can build out on Sales, Service, and Experience Cloud. There’s also apps like Fonteva https://appexchange.salesforce.com/appxListingDetail?listingId=a0N3000000587goEAA too

box464,
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@judisohn I hit the jackpot then! 😅 Thank you.

Yes! Just went to a conference that had Nimble AMS, a competitor. We’re just not sure it’s worth the additional layer of licensing if we can structure core Salesforce to do what we need. Our team has little Salesforce experience but a lot of excitement about the opportunities.

Just getting past the basic “are we considering this” mode and into “how would we do this” phase.

judisohn,
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@box464 What is your top priority? Finance? Program? Service/Support? Community engagement?

Where apps like Nimble and Fonteva add most value is in the integrated Communities and automation. They don’t do anything you couldn’t do yourself if you have a good tech infrastructure. Salesforce development is quite different than .NET from what I understand. Just know you’ll be responsible for keeping it all maintained and performant where the apps take that overhead for you.

box464,
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@judisohn Finance and Service of course. Membership subscriptions, auto renewals. Grant management would be a benefit.

Communities we have covered if there is a Higher Logic integration. Same with education (LMS, CE credits)

I appreciate your guidance and am stating to feel guilty for all this great advice!

Today I signed up for Trailblazer and looking through the nonprofit forums. Plan to take a few intro courses too.

judisohn,
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@box464 Not a problem at all. Wish I had more experience with 501c6 organizations. All my experience is with c3s.

You can find me in the Trailblazer Community. :-)

judisohn,
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@box464 My “I get nothing financial out of this advice” - consider one of the apps and plan to build on top if you need to customize further. Unless you have a deep shop of experienced Apex and JavaScript developers with Salesforce experience you’ll be much better off and set up for success.

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