driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

More Americans know about Tiamen Square that of what happened on Kent State.

Hestia,
@Hestia@hexbear.net avatar

They know of Tiamen square. I wouldn’t say they know about it. They just see a guy in front of a tank and then go “oooo, brave, standing up to the CeceePee.”

Bartsbigbugbag,

I hate to be that guy, but it’s tiananmen. 天 = tian =heaven, 安 = an = peace, 门 = men = gate. 天安门。

Hestia,
@Hestia@hexbear.net avatar

I’m American. That’s my excuse.

Bartsbigbugbag,

Sadly, I am also trapped in this pisspot with ya, I just also happen to have learned a bit of Chinese over the last year, and proposed in front of Chairman Mao in tiananmen when I was there, so I am pretty intimately aware of how to spell it lol

Hestia,
@Hestia@hexbear.net avatar

Yeah, tbh I think I just rolled with the typo from the previous comment…

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Not a typo, plain ignorance.

Frank,
@Frank@hexbear.net avatar

The Kent State shooting was very popular at the time. It’s only in retrospect that America decided to be horrified about it.

FlakesBongler,
@FlakesBongler@hexbear.net avatar

Yeah, the entirety of the US war on Vietnam has gotten memory holed into being this big, unpopular mistake when the truth was that it was fairly popular at first

Lots of volunteers, lots of pro-war sentiment

Took the war dragging on for several years for opinion to start changing, but the two big nails in the coffin were the Tet Offensive and the release of the Pentagon Papers

The combination of the supposedly defeated North Vietnamese striking back with a vengeance and the public finding out that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a farce was what finally broke the majority of public support

Atrocities like the My Lai Massacre and Tiger Force didn’t do much to get people turned off, and neither did the Kent State shooting

SkingradGuard,
@SkingradGuard@hexbear.net avatar

It’s just like how Afghanistan is considered now, apparently all the libs are now against it from the start.

America’s propaganda machine is ridiculously powerful.

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