Trying to make some pide bread for at-home döner kebabs and want to add 3 ingredients to the traditional recipe. How much do I add of each.

Cheradenine, 4 months ago

I would suggest just finding a recipe that already includes those ingredients.

Adding those three induces a lot of variables. Gluten is obviously going to strengthen the dough but be mitigated to some degree by the dough conditioner, it hydrates differently too. Diastatic Malt will add sweetness as well as flavor.

Your liquid (milk) will need to be increased.

What dough conditioner are you using? There are many.

What is the end goal here?

You can certainly do this but it would be an iterative process, this time too chewy, next too dry, etc.

SpiceDealer, 4 months ago

I’ve made a recipe that includes them but for a hoagie (or sub roll). That recipe uses 240g flour, 60g VWG, 8g dough conditioner, and 6g DMP. Doing some math and using baker percentages, it goes as follows: 25% for VWG, 3% for dough conditioner, and 2% for DMP. I probably did something wrong but I could try this formula. Of course, it there’s a better method I’ll consider it first.

SpiceDealer, 4 months ago

The dough conditioner I use is this one.

Cheradenine, 4 months ago

Looking at those ingredients I have used them all individually, but never in concert. Seems interesting.

Cheradenine, 4 months ago

If you’re happy with Bakers percentages I would go with that. You will need to increase your water as a percentage too.

You said in another comment that you wanted puffier bread, usually you want to increase hydration for that. It somewhat depends on your heat transfer though. You can use lower hydrations in a conventional oven, cooking on a steel plate on the stove or using a Tandoor works better with either higher hydration or longer ferments.

Reading your original recipe I thought you were looking at around a two hour fermentation time. Is that correct?

Robsadaisy, 4 months ago

Why do you need to add these ingredients? Not judgey, just curious.

SpiceDealer, 4 months ago (edited 4 months ago)

Puffier bread and better crumb. And a higher protein content.

nokturne213, 4 months ago

245g

Of?

SpiceDealer, 4 months ago

Water, my bad. Just edited it.