MxRemy,

I gave up both, problem solved lol

BedSharkPal,

I too am poor!

MxRemy,

You’re extremely not wrong! 😅

BarrelAgedBoredom,

Branding is key. You’re not poor, you’re ✨frugal✨

Vaggumon,

Flying, I haven’t been on a plane in 25 years, and I have no plans to ever get on one again. But I love a good steak.

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t know how long it has been, but I haven’t had a compelling reason to fly since before 9/11/2001. I guess that’s about 25 years.

WimpyWoodchuck,

For me, both price and time are very compelling reasons to fly, unfortunately.

The state of the environment is an even more compelling reason for me not to. But for many people it’s not. That’s why the price of flying must be raised enough, and alternatives like traveling by train must be made more attractive. So that there is enough reason not to fly for everyone.

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

High speed trains exist, just not in places like the USA. We could have more environmentally friendly coupled with similar time convenience. It’s truly unfortunate that it’s never been invested in, because its a viable and much less damaging alternative.

WimpyWoodchuck,

I live in Germany, where high speed trains are the norm and traveling by train is pretty common. It’s still much more expensive than flying. But at least it’s getting faster and faster, to a point where it beats traveling by car or even plane. Munich to Berlin (600 km) in less than four hours, nothing can beat that.

RealAccountNameHere,
@RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org avatar

If forced to choose, I’d give up flying. As I’m scared of it anyway, that makes the most sense. :)

That said, I think that if we all just did less of those things, it would be good too. Take more vacations near home. Eat meat only a few times a week. That sort of thing.

MiddleWeigh,
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine asking yourself this, like flying was ever fucking necessary ever.

buwho,

Definitely meat. I’m omnivorous now, but have been vegan for years and vegetarian years before that. Its actually ideal if you can afford it/ find the right dumpsters.

I have not found an efficient and fast way to travel across the ocean as i am not an experienced large vessel sailor and/or do not have access to a deep ocean worthy vessel.

herrwoland, (edited )
@herrwoland@lemmy.world avatar

If you want people to give up flying you need to give them alternatives. I always choose train if it’s available. And for meat we don’t have to collectively give up meat, eating less meat (once or twice a week) would be totally efficient in limiting the CO2 emissions

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

eating less meat (once or twice a week)

I’ve been doing this a few years now. Trying to slowly introduce more and more new vegetarian/vegan recipes into my life. Worth it, in my opinion.

LibertyLizard,
@LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net avatar

It’s really not hard. I think the extreme emphasis on going veg/vegan is actually harmful. Just eat less, find good veg recipes, then eat a little less, etc. You can get 90% of the way there and not even miss it much if you do it gradually.

dylanmorgan,

I gave up flying a while ago, so I guess I’ll keep that up.

BurriedCondor,

Could I give up meat for year if I plan on going on vacation that year and eat meat on non travel years?

TheMinions,

Airfare has to be the winner here right? With the way our global economy is currently set up we still require airplanes to deliver goods and people vast distances quickly.

I’d much rather eat veggies anyway. I’ve just grown to recently really like vegetables more than the meat part of a meal.

arin,

Medical supplies yes, but not shit like flowers, cherries, or tourists. Tourism is oversold and I’m so done. Especially cruise ships, just using international waters to dump their garbage

P1r4nha,

On that note: we really need some regulation on what’s allowed on open ocean. It’s to important of an eco system to survive without regulations.

And you enforce them at port.

nbailey,
@nbailey@lemmy.ca avatar

If I got 3x the vacation time from work to let me travel by oceanliner or airship I’d happily stop flying — but that would never happen. So instead we just have to use discretion for both. Eat more mushrooms & beans; take trips closer to home by rail. And yes once in a while enjoy a nice steak or take a trip overseas. Moderation is key.

Zorque,

It must be nice to have a robust public transit system...

reclipse,
@reclipse@lemdro.id avatar

Is it even possible to give up flying?

Nemo,

Very yes.

reclipse,
@reclipse@lemdro.id avatar

If I had to go to Europe or Japan, how am I supposed to accomplish that?

Nemo,

But you don’t, though.

reclipse,
@reclipse@lemdro.id avatar

You don’t

Nemo,

Exactly, now you get it.

P1r4nha,

You don’t have to.

reclipse,
@reclipse@lemdro.id avatar

I get it. You guys are just trolling.

P1r4nha,

Why do you need though? Just make a zoom call.

danwardvs,

I’ve never flown in my life and I’m doing okay.

reclipse,
@reclipse@lemdro.id avatar

I have neither.

watson387,
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar

Flying. I don’t like that shit anyway.

autumn,
@autumn@beehaw.org avatar

i gave up meat some 15+ years ago. easy peasy.

eleefece,
eleefece avatar

If Taylor Swift stops flying how many of us does it count for?

arin,

I’d give up both. Remember the week of global lockdown and people in India realized they could see the mountain range from their home? Fucking pollution, everywhere had amazing air quality for that week

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