informapirata,
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La Cina prevede di limitare l'uso di Bluetooth e Wi-Fi a livello nazionale
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Il ddl richiede a operatori Bluetooth, Wi-Fi e altre reti ad-hoc , mesh e wireless di implementare sistemi di monitoraggio dei dati, "promuovere i valori fondamentali del socialismo", "aderire alle giuste indicazioni politiche" e agli utenti di “adottare misure per impedire la produzione di copie o la diffusione di informazioni non richieste e contrastarle.

Di Emma Davis su How to Fix
https://howtofix.guide/bluetooth-and-wi-fi-in-china/

iam0day,
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In poche parole: rafforzare la censura e l'abuso dittatoriale

energiepirat,
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@informapirata @informatica On the way to fascism.

informapirata,
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@energiepirat @informatica China has long been a fascist country, but so far its fascism has been too busy growing and this made it acceptable to both the West and its citizens. Today Chinese fascism is that of a country that feels under siege and this makes it dangerous for the West and increasingly hateful for its own citizens.

paoloredaelli,
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@informapirata we should then avoid using hardware built there. @energiepirat @informatica

energiepirat,
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@paoloredaelli @informapirata @informatica Hm, I think stones and sand are OK.

paoloredaelli,
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@energiepirat
I mainly meant silicon and IT related stuffs but buying anything remotely "industrially complex" strengthen them. And they are already too strong
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energiepirat,
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@informapirata @informatica I see the similar structures and tactics, but I doubt they would see themselves as fascists.

informapirata,
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@energiepirat @informatica “Fascist is as fascist does”

energiepirat,
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@informapirata @informatica That's true. But Fascism has a quite specific historic background. Italian concept based on antique Roman practising. Therefore I doubt that themselves realize their doing as fascism. We from outside can judge that way. But they will not.

informapirata,
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@energiepirat @informatica Fascism is a "made in Italy" product and I think I know it quite well, also considering the momentary Italian success of the neo-fascists in government: fascism is not a simple dictatorship, but it is a phenomenon made up of an ideal "spiritual" continuity with a " History" remote and glorious (more or less invented) and from the culture of victimhood which allows internal enemies to be spiritually equated with the external Enemy. For this reason Beijing is fascist

energiepirat, (edited )
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@informapirata @informatica I agree on that view. But same time I'm sure the Chinese will not see it this way. Even if there is a kind of resurrection feeling about a lost past.

Gsus4,

Well, I look at it this way: if they agree that there is capitalism and that the alternatives to that are communism and fascism, then ask them whether China is communist (it isn't) and ask them if China guarantees the rights of investors against the state (no, the party's interest always wins, there is no rule of law)...then let them connect the dots.

paoloredaelli,
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@energiepirat s/fascist/totalitarian regime/ and I think everyone will be happy with the definition, even the bosses of the unique, ruling party in that country. @informapirata @informatica

energiepirat,
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@paoloredaelli @informapirata @informatica The Chinese leaders themselves will be happy to be identified ls fascists? Why?

paoloredaelli,
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@energiepirat
Of course not, but they will happily admit that their party is the only allowed to exist, the only wise (their propaganda call it that way).All the others in their opinions are the fascist or the imperialist. The democracies are puppet regimes when they are not controlled by them
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paoloredaelli,
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@energiepirat
I've been reading their propaganda organs in Italian labelled as "collective $Place_of_birth_of_Mao". They're so blatant it's easy to spot them out.
I.e. they've been calling USA "paper tiger" and Taiwan is "imperialist puppet regime". They never ever even use the word "Taiwan" as they're using words like weapons
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energiepirat, (edited )
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@paoloredaelli @informapirata @informatica Communism, unchained Socialism, Fascism, Nazism, Absolutism, Authoritarism. At core they're all the same crab.

energiepirat,
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@paoloredaelli @informapirata @informatica Mille Grazie! I think as soon as a political organization tells you that society requires strict regulation, stronger laws and more control you know that those people give a shit on democracy.

paoloredaelli,
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@energiepirat
From Wikipedia: "Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy."
Remove far right. Everything else applies
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lordmax,

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mmm
mi pare che sia simile a quello che si sta chiedendo anche in europa.
In america invece sono più avanti, lo fanno e basta

treleonora,
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@lordmax @informapirata @informatica da quando in Europa si sta chiedendo di agire per un monitoraggio di bluetooth e wi-fi?

lordmax,

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Si sta chiedendo di agire per un controllo più globale e intrusivo su tutto. Persino sui file e sulle chat criptate.

informapirata,
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@lordmax ok, Ma nessuno qui in Europa si è mai spinto fino al Bluetooth e al WiFi

@treleonora @informatica

lordmax,

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Non che il passo sia lungo, scommetterei che ci arrivano entro l'anno.
Però sul wifi non sono convinto... mi pare di ricordare una richiesta di accesso ai wifi pubblici... Però poteva anche solo essere una lamentela.

informapirata,
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@treleonora in effetti non mi risulta, ma chiedo conferma a @lordmax @informatica

BobKerman3999,

Mi sembra coerente con quello che stanno facendo da 50+ anni. Anzi mi stupisco che non fosse già così

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