Disable autorefresh while scrolling?

I'm trying to view Lemmy from the browser but have already seen most of the posts at the top, so to get new stuff I'm trying to look at all communities sorted by new. But as I scroll down the page keeps refreshing the posts automatically and pushing stuff I've already scrolled past into view again, and sometimes causing misclicks. Is there a way to disable that so I only get new posts when I refresh the page?

This problem is only going to get worse if the site gets busier.

kiwi,

The lemmy ui is removing websockets in the next update replacing it with a REST API. I suspect that will stop any new posts from popping to the top after load.

People seem to not want new posts and comments moving things around on their page anyway.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2841

sexy_peach,

There is no auto refreshing, it probably is this behavior, which is a bug. Might get fixed with the next update, if we're lucky :)

menachem, (edited )

I don't think it's the same thing. It looks like that user is watching the site reload the entire list, and inaccurately at that (they're looking at all by new but seeing days old posts in between minutes old ones?). What's happening to me is that if I just sit at the top of the page I can watch as new posts come in live, one at a time. Which sounds cool in theory, but really hurts the browsing experience!

sexy_peach,

Okay I see so it really is auto refreshing. I don't think there's a fix for that at the moment. The problem, that posts are coming in too fast always was a far away wish on lemmy xD

Menachem,

That's concerning. There'll be a ton of problems like that if Lemmy actually sees a mass migration happen. Top of the list: what's stopping people from vote brigading posts with accounts from different instances? I've had to create 3 of them just to be able to consistently access the site as the first one didn't work and the second (this one) saw excessive loading times for a few hours.

sexy_peach,

Top of the list: what’s stopping people from vote brigading posts with accounts from different instances?

I've had different reddit accounts as well, wouldn't this work there as well?

In short, nothing. Admins could check from which the votes are coming from and block that badly moderated server.

menachem,

At least with Reddit it's easily detectable (in theory, assuming anyone cared) without putting in the extra effort of IP masking. Here it seems like it'd be impossible to counter even if it were done by a complete layman. If someone has just one account on 5+ different instances they could make a huge difference by voting on their own posts without ever being detected.

Honestly, now that I think about it, it's probably already happening to great effect considering how few people there are voting.

But yeah, oh well. Hopefully something works out.

sexy_peach,

Yeah we don't have a solution to that atm.

sexy_peach,

Also unfortunately lemmy is still fairly beta software. We only have two full times devs and it's not been long ago that they were implementing some of the standard features we're using today.

We have to work with what we have.

borari,
@borari@sh.itjust.works avatar

So I just noticed this behavior while sitting at the top of the All/New feed on my instance. I noticed that the surge of "new" posts that came in were all pretty old, and all from one or two communities on another instance. I'm now wondering if maybe there's some sort of race condition going on with the interaction between the database and the front-end, where these old posts are being considered "new" when they're initially pulled in to the local instance db.

sexy_peach,

when they’re initially pulled in to the local instance db.

I know this, these posts are not pulled initially. Many times I have seen this with old posts that I had seen and voted on months ago.

Soon lemmy will get html posts instead of websocket, I think that might fix it??

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