What's the best rolling release Distributions that doesn't crash too much
So basically i want try other rolling release distributions besides Vanilla Arch Linux So Give your thoughts on which is the best and also how to install the wifi drivers on Endeavour os and Gentoo Linux For a better experience
I was guessing but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t work And yes I know Debain is easy nowadays but regardless I will try Debain or even better MX Linux and Linux mint Debain edition
Delving into the realm of non-rolling distros, yes MX is quite good (sits on top of Debian). I’ve used the latest version on a laptop seeing almost daily use for 1.5 years or so and zero issues. And thread originator is correct, Debian is the gold standard for a stable linux experience.
I’d say Tumbleweed is what you’re looking for. They have some sort of automated testing process (OpenQA, I think) and are far more stable than Arch, while oftentimes having newer versions of packages before Arch.
I doubt it’s as noticeable as you make it out to be. I use the default kernel shipped with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and the system is acceptably responsive while under load, with the main exception being low memory situations (i.e. heavy swap usage). But I expect the Zen scheduler to have similar issues.
Then again, I probably have more tolerance for poor responsiveness because I rarely run my system to its limits (unless compiling) and rarely interact with other apps while playing games.
It’s only been noticeable while compiling and looking at animations. It might also just be placebo or I’m misremembering since it’s been many months since I “tested” it.
It wasn’t my intention to make it sound like it’s a giant improvement. It’s marginal but if it’s simple to install I’d say go for it.
Have you considered a fixed release in combination with rolling applications (i. e. Flatpak, Snap)?
If you choose Fedora (preferably one of the atomic variants, like Silverblue), you would also get a rolling kernel and rolling KDE Plasma desktop, so overall the experience can be quite close to a rolling release distribution if you install the desktop applications via Flatpak.
Ubuntu “interim” (non-LTS) releases are usually also fairly current and could be a good choice if you don’t mind Snap. There’s also the option of following the Ubuntu “devel” branch, which always refers to the current pre-release version of Ubuntu (e. g. 24.04 at the moment) and is rolling.
Just wanted to give you a different direction to think about. ;)
Just FYI, if you like EndeavourOS, you should know that it’s essentially an installer for Vanilla Arch (unlike Majaro which is Arch-based).
So you may have just had bad luck when you tried Vanilla Arch that you didn’t have with EndeavourOS – but there’s no real difference between the 2 besides manual vs GUI installer.
Depending on what you want, OpenSUSE’s OBS is a great alternative to the AUR. It works by building software given a script, so you still just download binary packages, unlike the AUR where you download build scripts.
I honestly haven’t needed much since switching from Arch to openSUSE, though I’ve played with some OBS packages here and there. I used to maintain some AUR packages, and I haven’t needed to on Tumbleweed.
Give it a shot, you probably don’t need both. I prefer Tumbleweed these days, but I’ve used Tumbleweed and Arch both for about the same amount of time (5-ish years) and can recommend both.
Cause those are nothing more then distros that come with some prepackeged apps. Nothing I can’t easily do myself and prefer more vanilla experience and minimal bloat distros.
Bazzite is just an immutable fedora image with preconfigured containers, among others an arch container for running steam and adjacent apps.
Overall fedora (whether immutable or regular) feels like a rolling release. By the time a new release comes out, most packages are similar, except maybe a big suite (e.g. new gnome version). Upgrades are also pretty seamless too. My grandpa’s pc has been running Fedora since 27 (or 29) and it’s now on 38. Never reinstalled
The last time I used Fedora was almost 15 years ago, and back then release upgrades took forever (45 min IIRC) and stuff often broke. That was the main reason I switched to Arch and why I stick with rolling releases these days. Their packages were usually really fresh, so that is still the same.
I think I used Fedora last around 18 or 20 (can’t remember exactly), and I remember it being the first major distro to use GNOME 3 and systemd. My main gripe was the upgrader, fedup, and yum was really slow, but other than that it was a fine distro.
I’m on openSUSE Tumbleweed now and have no intention to try Fedora again, but I like that it’s an option.
I’ve been running the same arch install for atleast 5 years… I honestly can’t recommend any other distro because I haven’t used many for a long enough period of time
I also used Arch for 5+ years and had very few issues. If you know what you’re doing, it’s not hard to keep it running stable.
I’m now on Tumbleweed and have even fewer issues.
But honestly, what’s wrong with stable distros? I recommend them by default because there’s far less chance for anything to go wrong day to day, and your only concern is at release time. I switched because I’m a developer and using the latest is better for me so I can test on the latest versions of things. I also prefer to fix things as I go instead of potentially lose a day to a release upgrade going sideways (happened twice, once with Ubuntu and again with Fedora).
Btw, Tumbleweed is great because it configures snapper by default, which let’s you roll back if an upgrade goes poorly. I’ve used it a few times over 2-3 years, mostly when my NVIDIA driver got mismatched from the kernel. I’m now on an AMD GPU and haven’t needed it since.
Ok its because of my trust on the fedora after redhat closing up their source code and making it paid and they’re adding telemetry in fedora 45 and up so that’s why i have left fedora
Redhat isn’t closing their source code – it’s open to customers. And unless you need to use RHEL for some reason, it shouldn’t have any impact. Fedora is upstream from Redhat, not the other way around.
The telemetry Fedora is adding is extremely sensible, and also opt-in. So not sure what the concern is there.
But regardless, that has nothing to do with rolling versus stable releases. There are plenty of other stable distributions not based on Fedora.
I’m not understanding why you’d prefer software that’s more likely to be buggy or broken for your gaming rig over a stable distribution. What’s the motivation?
Depends on your hardware – but to be blunt, that question alone tells me a rolling release would be a headache for you.
Have you Googled your hardware and “Fedora wifi drivers” to see if there’s a fix? Because that’s the sort of thing you’re likely to need to do with a rolling release as bleeding-edge drivers get pushed to your system and things stop working.
That’s what im going to use daily use anyway and for gaming as well but that because fedora doesn’t detect my wifi drivers at least opensuse slowroll is looking good for a backup os
As someone who used Arch for several years and has been on Tumbleweed for a few years now, life happens. I ran Arch on my laptop, desktop, and a server, and I could go weeks if not 1-2 months between actively using one of those. But when I do, I want the latest software.
So I now use Tumbleweed on my desktop and laptop and Leap on my server. Updates are no longer painful whether it’s been a week or a month. I also switched to AMD GPU, which further reduced my issues.
I think Arch is fine, Tumbleweed just fits my lifestyle more. I’ll probably move my server to MicroOS one of these days, probably when Leap 15.6 EOL is announced.
I have a work computer, Steam Deck, and video game console as well. Sometimes I just don’t get around to using my desktop PC or laptop.
I also have kids, and they use my computers more than I do (mostly Minecraft). But I don’t personally use them every day (usually 1-2x/week, if that), and I don’t run updates every time I use my computer. I do try to remember to update them once/week (usually Saturdays), but that doesn’t happen very consistently.
And then there are vacations and whatnot (e.g. we went on a family trip for 3 weeks last year). Life gets busy, and mine doesn’t revolve around my computers, my computers are merely tools I use to play games, work on personal projects, and sometimes watch shows.
I mean it’s not really rolling, but since this is Linux Gaming, I recommend checking out Nobara Linux. It’s a Fedora fork made by GloriousEggroll of the proton-GE fame. It’s the easiest Linux gaming experience I’ve had so far, at least with the non-modified Gnome version.
IMHO, you should avoid KDE – I’ve had nothing but bad experiences there – but if that’s your favourite poison go ahead.
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